Cross shopping Ram Rho

[Keith88]

Nada. I’ve had an AT4 and still have a Denali. I’m not a fan (currently) of GM products, engines, or tech.

Yeah... had 2020 GMC AT4 with the 6.2. Engine blew at 12k miles. Dumped it at the dealer. First and last GM product ill own.

 

[shigman]

Yeah... had 2020 GMC AT4 with the 6.2. Engine blew at 12k miles. Dumped it at the dealer. First and last GM product ill own.

Was it related to the cylinder deactivation or something?

 

[Keith88]

Was it related to the cylinder deactivation or something?

If I remember correctly. 2 lifters took a dump and the camshaft snapped. Was during Covid and they couldnt get a new engine. GM bought the truck back after 2 months of back n forth. Had it towed to the dealer and never saw it again.

 

[DFS]

I am interested. Don’t care that it’s the intro model year. Equipped comparably to a loaded 37 raptor it’s within about 3k on the website. Dunno what I wanna do in the future. The ram has a better interior for sure. Might go back to a HD.

I'm really enjoying my F350 with the HO and Tremor package.

 

[RaptorHighLife]

Had a 2019 Ram 1500 Rebel prior to the Raptor. The Ram had the following issues in 60k miles:
1. Drain tubes for sunroof were not hooked up during assembly. Leak into cab. Ram removed the interior and replaced the entire carpet due to mold.
2. Radio went black and rear camera blurry- Ram replaced the media hub, radio, and backup camera. The first three replacement radios (12" screen") were DOA. The fourth replacement finally worked.
3. Gears in the right rearview mirror failed - replaced by Ram.
4. Oil leak at top of engine - determined that during assembly a spacer of some sort was not put between the exhaust manifold and cylinder head. Due to this the bolts were too long and penetrated the left cylinder head. This took 5 or 6 visits to the dealership to diagnose this issue. Replaced by Ram
5. Right front CV boot failed - replaced by Ram
6. Rear window developed 2 cracks in the frame - not covered by Ram even though my build date and options code put me in the extended warranty for this part. The official "fix" is 2-part urethane body sealer around the exterior of the rear window. LOL.
7. Water leak at left front quarter panel seam.
8. Water leak at driver's door.
9. Water pump failed at 61k miles.

While most of the above issues were handled by Ram under warranty they ALL took a significant amount of fighting Ram before they were covered. I felt that Ram will attempt to avoid warranty coverage as much as possible. The rear window, for instance, SHOULD have been covered under their own qualifications. They could not tell me why my truck wasn't covered even though it met the build date window AND had the build code required for warranty coverage on this item. I also had a Ram 2500 diesel at the same time and they would deny warranty coverage on items clearly listed in the federal emissions warranty. I'll never own another Ram / Stellantis product.

 

[ThePaintPirate]

At one point growing up, every member of my family had a Dodge/Chrysler product, mom had a chrysler, dad a dodge, and me a jeep; and each one had issues that caused it to be out of commission for an extended period of time. I'll never have one as a main vehicle again.

 

[MORaptor1]

I’ve owned a couple jeeps and a dodge truck. Never any serious issues. Gotta remember that while some have had big issues, most don’t. These vehicles all compete in the same market and if quality was such a big issue, they wouldn’t exist. ALL mfgrs have issues from time to time.

 

[BaseModelRaptor]

Not gonna lie... I was interested in the RHO. I have a 2020 (5.7 Hemi) and 2022 (3.6 Pentastar) Jeep Grand Trailhawk and LOVE them. Also before my Raptor I had a pretty "tricked out" Rubicon. I have never ever had a single real issue with any Jeep product I've owned. (Crazy right). The Raptor just was a better over-all truck to me so I bought it. Now for yall that "know" me.. Ive had some serious issues with the Raptor till bout 6 months ago. Its stopped breaking since and has been a great truck.

I went and looked at the RHO cause the Raptor is over 30k miles and its value is starting to drop hard...and gotta say while the interior of the RHO is very nice I hate the exterior. Looks obese. I just dont know how else to put it. Then no dip stick...air to water intercooler... tons of plastic where metal should be.. really turned me off. But the biggest thing was... I couldnt fit. At 6'8 I dont have enough head room with or without the sunroof. The seating position is too damn high. If I could fit...I had the opportunity to get one for dealer invoice. Had to pass. Bring on the Gen4 I guess.

If I were to order now with dealer and incentive discounts I'm looking at $14k off MsRP. That would be around $72k. The price is really appealing.

 

[thatJeepguy]

I think the RHO is a hasty development from a disillusioned / fighting upper management staff. Greenie euros vs displacement hungry american staff. The trx vs Standard 3.5 raptor argument made sense . 700 ponies vs 450 had an allure where you could get past the clunky extra 700lbs the trx had. But the rho is like the beta younger weaker version of it. So most of the Pr campaign for the truck by Stallantis is cope.

Ive had a lot of wranglers and had no serious problems with engine trans at any point.

Grand Cherokees are really great platform imo. Like for the money probably one of the best suv u can buy. The air suspension in the 2020+ years is phenominal and really pulls a lot of nvh from the cab to the point where its nearly silent on the highway at the 1/4 of the price of a range rover. I daily a 2004 wj with 260k on original motor and trans. Final iteration of The 4.0 2004-2006 inline 6 is arguably one of the best Na engines ever made in north america. Back then Jeep was owned by Diamler Mercedes and tapped a lot of resources from porche believe it or not to design the unibody for the WJ. Stellantis quality is shit. All the money is put into interior but engineering wise its shit. Fiat… trash mean cmon. 3.0 eco diesel -trash. Almost any current chrysler product - trash. Durango - shitbox . Jeep renegade -trash , and them pushing 4xe wranglers - 25 miles of ev range with a ****** 2.0 that somehow sounds worse than a volvo 5cyl- oh thats cute.

 

[MORaptor1]

I think the RHO is a hasty development from a disillusioned / fighting upper management staff. Greenie euros vs displacement hungry american staff. The trx vs Standard 3.5 raptor argument made sense . 700 ponies vs 450 had an allure where you could get past the clunky extra 700lbs the trx had. But the rho is like the beta younger weaker version of it. So most of the Pr campaign for the truck by Stallantis is cope.

Ive had a lot of wranglers and had no serious problems with engine trans at any point.

Grand Cherokees are really great platform imo. Like for the money probably one of the best suv u can buy. The air suspension in the 2020+ years is phenominal and really pulls a lot of nvh from the cab to the point where its nearly silent on the highway at the 1/4 of the price of a range rover. I daily a 2004 wj with 260k on original motor and trans. Final iteration of The 4.0 2004-2006 inline 6 is arguably one of the best Na engines ever made in north america. Back then Jeep was owned by Diamler Mercedes and tapped a lot of resources from porche believe it or not to design the unibody for the WJ. Stellantis quality is shit. All the money is put into interior but engineering wise its shit. Fiat… trash mean cmon. 3.0 eco diesel -trash. Almost any current chrysler product - trash. Durango - shitbox . Jeep renegade -trash , and them pushing 4xe wranglers - 25 miles of ev range with a ****** 2.0 that somehow sounds worse than a volvo 5cyl- oh thats cute.

Hasty….i dunno about that. It’s a TRX lite. The trx was created to stomp a raptor while ram still had access to the engine and they had many many years to develop it. Now that they don’t have access the engine, and they saw the wild success of the TRX, they pretty much know anything similar will sell good.