Can using Forscan void warranty?

[New recaros]

Just take off the forscan mod and take it to a different dealer, and just show them it doesn’t power fold.

Problem solved.
Everyone can play lawyer all they want and tell you “ford is right” or “ford is wrong,” but here’s your solution.

You don’t think the first dealer logged the issue under his Vin?
We are not playing Lawyer, we are saying you can be a lying cheat or take responsibility for your actions.
He told them or they found out about the mod, but now you’re advocating to cheat the system?

 

[Antho]

He said it did not come with the option, first paragraph. There could be many things Ford does to increase life. Gear ratio to slow it down, different bushings, leverage ratios, soft start, etc… all of these things could reduce motor load and increase duty cycles for the mirror.

Read post 14. He doesn’t even know for sure. All of the 2022 super duties data that I pulled have it activated. You actually think ford has separate mirrors specifically for auto fold?

 

[New recaros]

All I am saying is if the option package that was purchased did not come with it auto folding mirrors, It should not be covered.
I think our Ford tech said there were 22 versions of mirrors.
If there is no difference then ford could have made the change for a couple hundred bucks, then it would have been covered.
Funny how we demand money back or discount when Ford deletes an option, but when we add some for free we want Ford to cover it.
We hear all the time Stealership, and for good reason at times but some are on here devising ways to rip off Ford. Seems a bit Hypocritical

 

[Jakenbake]

All I am saying is if the option package that was purchased did not come with it auto folding mirrors, It should not be covered.
I think our Ford tech said there were 22 versions of mirrors.
If there is no difference then ford could have made the change for a couple hundred bucks, then it would have been covered.
Funny how we demand money back or discount when Ford deletes an option, but when we add some for free we want Ford to cover it.
We hear all the time Stealership, and for good reason at times but some are on here devising ways to rip off Ford. Seems a bit Hypocritical

Would you feel different if he were just sitting in the truck hitting the button to fold it and the motor failed? I imagine that could fall into some abuse category if they were some how able to look at how many times the motor cycled, but that depends on how many cycles it was rated for.

As far as forscan changing something in the truck. Someone with more experience correct me, but doesn’t it literally just check a box yes or no, it isn’t like it is writing the code to make the option possible. Then it should follow all the same things mentioned above, which would put the same west and rear on the motor as if it were a factory option.

So if what I said was true: that if the mirror has an electric fold (not auto) from the factory and if forscan only turns on an option that was turned on before then it probably should be covered in my opinion. But also in my opinion, I don’t agree with lying, hiding things, “cheating the system”, etc.

For what it is worth, I modify things and I don’t even consider warranty coverage as an option. Having said that, if all (100%) of people cheating the system went away, the vehicle price wouldn’t be cheaper.

 

[New recaros]

Would you feel different if he were just sitting in the truck hitting the button to fold it and the motor failed? I imagine that could fall into some abuse category if they were some how able to look at how many times the motor cycled, but that depends on how many cycles it was rated for.

As far as forscan changing something in the truck. Someone with more experience correct me, but doesn’t it literally just check a box yes or no, it isn’t like it is writing the code to make the option possible. Then it should follow all the same things mentioned above, which would put the same west and rear on the motor as if it were a factory option.

So if what I said was true: that if the mirror has an electric fold (not auto) from the factory and if forscan only turns on an option that was turned on before then it probably should be covered in my opinion. But also in my opinion, I don’t agree with lying, hiding things, “cheating the system”, etc.

For what it is worth, I modify things and I don’t even consider warranty coverage as an option. Having said that, if all (100%) of people cheating the system went away, the vehicle price wouldn’t be cheaper.

You can make-up all the hypothetical crud you want. Here’s the bottom line. If the option was stolen, then it should not be covered.
If it had the option but it did not work, then Ford would have fixed it under warranty.

 

[Jakenbake]

You can make-up all the hypothetical crud you want. Here’s the bottom line. If the option was stolen, then it should not be covered.
If it had the option but it did not work, then Ford would have fixed it under warranty.

I don’t really have an opinion as to whether it should be fixed or not.
I was just looking at a situation and saying that this one is a little more “grey area” then a tuning the truck and destroying an engine then saying ford should fix it.

If I was ford, I would say no it shouldn’t, if I was in OP’s shoes I would fix it myself. But, I am neither of those.

 

[Antho]

I guess i'm more concerned about what the actual issue is with the mirror. I totally agree that if the O.P did something to damage the mirror its on him. I dont even think the O.P had this enabled in Forscan if he has a lariat and thats where i'm confused as to how/why the dealer jumped to the conclusion that the failure was the O.p's Fault. So i'm not arguing or disagreeing with @New recaros. Just seems to be more information needed on the root cause.

 

[ihoffland]

You don’t think the first dealer logged the issue under his Vin?
We are not playing Lawyer, we are saying you can be a lying cheat or take responsibility for your actions.
He told them or they found out about the mod, but now you’re advocating to cheat the system?

Who knows if they logged it under the vin. This "mod" is no different than just running the motor open or closed with the button. If he had done that every time he locked the truck would that have been "abuse" or a "mod?"

Don't try to play the morality card. The motors failed under a normal operation. Don't excuse a part failing with "Abuse." I bet you begged your dealer to give you an even bigger ADM than you already paid, didn't you?

 

[New recaros]

Who knows if they logged it under the vin. This "mod" is no different than just running the motor open or closed with the button. If he had done that every time he locked the truck would that have been "abuse" or a "mod?"

Don't try to play the morality card. The motors failed under a normal operation. Don't excuse a part failing with "Abuse." I bet you begged your dealer to give you an even bigger ADM than you already paid, didn't you?

Who knows if they logged it under the vin. This "mod" is no different than just running the motor open or closed with the button. If he had done that every time he locked the truck would that have been "abuse" or a "mod?"

Don't try to play the morality card. The motors failed under a normal operation. Don't excuse a part failing with "Abuse." I bet you begged your dealer to give you an even bigger ADM than you already paid, didn't you?

Yep, I played the morality card, you played, I am a victim card. Morality wins, sorry.

 

[Rick at FMS]

I can confirm that it WILL void your electrical warranty, if you change your ride height then your suspension Warranty is void and so on. Ask me how I know?
Ive had 2 Lemon Law claims that went all the wy to court.

Change your ride height as in calibrating it via Forscan or do you mean with a collar or aftermarket coils like Eibach’s? I ask because we are talking about Forscan not physical mods.