CAFE fuel standards being relaxed!

[BoostCreep]

Not sure I see the overall win here. The CAFE standards drove efficiency in vehicles, its why we don't have 8L V8s getting 9mpg in family SUVs. Sure, not everything is a win, I see little to no difference between the 6.2L in my Gen 1 Raptor and the 3.5 in my Gen 3. But in general, it reduced our demand on fuel.

By introducing electric and hybrid cars, it further reduced demand.

Now, we look at the supply and demand curve. If there is no mandate to ensure we do better on mpg or provide alternatives so the rest of us can have the available fuel, the demand will increase. If supply stays the same, hate to say it, but price goes up. Even with more american oil supply, capitalism will ensure the price goes up. No one is working to make life cheaper for you. Don't kid yourself otherwise.

Oil prices won't go down except unless we end up in a recession.

 

[MORaptor1]

Some of you guys…..Jeeze. Let the market decide what people want and thusly what manufactures make. It’s amazing that some of you think “efficiency” can only come from the big govt. lol.

 

[TomDirt]

Nothing wrong with hybrids. They are the efficient solution.

They are efficient at demolishing garages.

 

[smurfslayer]

They are efficient at demolishing garages.

That, friends, is a “car-be-que"

 

[GCATX]

They are efficient at demolishing garages.

Hybrid garage.

 

[John813]

I'm okay with efficiency being the goal, but get rid of the emissions BS. Modern diesel reliability has been destroyed by EGR, DPF, DEF, and so on with very little measurable "emissions" effect.

Also played a role in killing the reliability of the Hemi/Chevy V8s with the AFM/DFM shit

 

[MORaptor1]

This is fantastic news. Passenger car pollution is not bad here. You should see central and south america. They don't even have cat converters on most of the cars.

This is true. And the pollution, in most spots, is largely due to geographic features that concentrate the air, etc. One size does not fit all. I guess the main point here is that the FED gov has no constitutional authority to be involved in EPA or CAFE etc. Those are not in the constitution. As such, they are 10th amendment issues and belong to the individual states. If CA wants draconian environmental laws, let them. People will either put up with it and demand cars to comply, or they will move or not buy such cars.

 

[csantarcangelo]

Let’s not leave everything to states, though because then we get insanely divergent laws. Soon enough you won’t be able to drive across a state line because of it.

2nd amendment issues are a good example of states handling it themselves. Not trying to start a firearm topic, but sometimes it’s good to have a single standard to comply with.

 

[TomDirt]

Let’s not leave everything to states, though because then we get insanely divergent laws. Soon enough you won’t be able to drive across a state line because of it.

The Ca dmv website has a page where you can rat out your neighbors for using out of state vehicle registration. It even explains why they might do it: "to avoid higher registration fees & smog checks".