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I expect the same.. Dealers will also break their word on spoken allocations and so on.. I talked to a lot of dealers to get an allocation, I would say even over the last 12 month and there wasn't even 1 dealer where I would feel safe with ordering and actually getting an R for MSRP or close to that..Sad parts is someone will buy it... I bet many more dealers will be selling for 50-75k over. Wait and see when they start hitting dealership lots
Agreed. Musk was smart in finding that “showroom only” loophole. We have two Tesla’s in the family. Both purchases were completed online through Tesla in less than 20 minutes. No hours wasted at a dealer playing games or watching them take numbers from one place and sticking them elsewhere as if you the buyer are that stupid to notice. And of course, no ADM shenanigans.Ford needs to start a new company and establish the direct sales model like Tesla and Rivian.
At this point, no more mercy for the conventional dealers.
The legacy structure that car companies are still running with has also way too complex and too many costly middle layers with sales reps and area reps and all that between the manufacturer and the customer..
Future Ford is my local dealership and they are complete trash.Future Ford in Sacramento is the dealer asking for 100k ADM in that Craigslist ad.
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They have huge ADMs of 25-35k on all their Raptors.
Yeah that's it. ADMs aside for a sec: It has always been annoying to talk to sales people and work with dealerships, but since other companies are now proofing that it can work otherwise, it's getting ridiculous with the dealership experiences..Agreed. Musk was smart in finding that “showroom only” loophole. We have two Tesla’s in the family. Both purchases were completed online through Tesla in less than 20 minutes. No hours wasted at a dealer playing games or watching them take numbers from one place and sticking them elsewhere as if you the buyer are that stupid to notice. And of course, no ADM shenanigans.
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Serious question what happens when it breaks? Where is closest service dept?Yeah that's it. ADMs aside for a sec: It has always been annoying to talk to sales people and work with dealerships, but since other companies are now proofing that it can work otherwise, it's getting ridiculous with the dealership experiences..
Last year, I've put 1k on a Rivian R1T order and now this truck is actually coming before any of my 3 Raptor orders (21 and 22) has even been scheduled.For getting the Rivian, I didn't need to leave home for the buying and delivery process. Not even a phone call was required so far. Rivian even came to my house for a 45min Test drive.. Have you heard of any dealer that would provide you a Raptor test drive at your home?
I prefer the Raptor over the R1T, but the customer experience makes me now spend the $80k+ on Rivian and not Ford..
Wow. Talk about customer oriented service. There is definitely a growing rift between dealers and Manufacturers and that will hopefully lead to some type of law reform where customers will be able to choose how they purchase their vehicles. I surprised my dad with a Tesla for his birthday. Like you, All I had to do was download the app, choose my vehicle, options, preferred terms for financing, and by the next morning I had a delivery date. I spoke to no one from Tesla. No rep. No finance manager. No mystery fees. No being offered vending snacks while I spend hours at the dealership. Nothing. It was as easy as ordering Amazon. Certainly Ford or any other manufacturer can do the same.Yeah that's it. ADMs aside for a sec: It has always been annoying to talk to sales people and work with dealerships, but since other companies are now proofing that it can work otherwise, it's getting ridiculous with the dealership experiences..
Last year, I've put 1k on a Rivian R1T order and now this truck is actually coming before any of my 3 Raptor orders (21 and 22) has even been scheduled.For getting the Rivian, I didn't need to leave home for the buying and delivery process. Not even a phone call was required so far. Rivian even came to my house for a 45min Test drive.. Have you heard of any dealer that would provide you a Raptor test drive at your home?
I prefer the Raptor over the R1T, but the customer experience makes me now spend the $80k+ on Rivian and not Ford..
I came across a dealer in Racine Wisconsin (Porcaro Ford) and they told me they had an allocation available for 100k over msrp. Asked me if I wanted to start the bidding. I laughed and hung up.