Any info on tinting the taillights?

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I think what some are saying is that this idea seems like a real safety issue all because someone wants to "look cool"?
Does some one sell a replacement lens assembly were the light looks black, but when you hit the brakes the full light still comes out to be seen by others...?
 

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it looks ok, but just know that you’re creating a reason for a traffic stop by doing it. And, you are ever involved in a collision and someone strikes you from the rear, or swerves to avoid you and strikes another vehicle or person, you’ll be considered strongly for being faulted in the collision.

What’s the worst that could happen, right?

you’re stopped at a light and a cell yakker behind you isn’t paying attention in their 7500 pound Excursion. They swerved around your stopped truck into a pedestrian walkway, killing 2, injuring 2 more. Because there’s a fatality, nobody leaves the scene until copious notes and photos are taken. While you’re standing around, cops chat you up about what a great truck you have, they really want one and are saving up. Where did you get the tint done?
Man, it is a really nice truck and great that your truck didn’t get hit.

A few minutes later another cop talks to you about the collision, and remarks about your cool looking truck. He was talking to the other cop and wants to know about your brake light tint. You know that’s illegal right? Driver X says that they couldn’t see your brake lights and at the last minute they swerved, and you just told officer Smith over there that you tinted your lights - which you just told me you knew was illegal. There’s 2 people dead here, do you think you bear any responsibility?

If you don’t think this can happen, you haven’t had a lot of interactions with cops, or count any as your friends.

could you seriously be cited? Hells yes, depending on the state, their vehicle equipment laws, case law and how they assess fault for vehicle collisions. Could you be arrested? I don’t know, but I think it’s a possibility.
Could you be successfully sued for “causing” the swerve or contributing to the cause of the collision resulting in injury or death.

Honestly, it would almost be worth quitting my job, going to and completing law school to take up the case above because you would lose and lose huge in court. If you modify a vehicle making it more difficult to see or observe and a collision ensues where this modification contributed to the cause, the only question is how much you’re going to pay, not if you’re going to pay.

blah, blah, blah, pay sufficient attention, blah, blah don’t follow too close and all that. I agree. But motor vehicle code has evolved over the years to roll in situations in which unusual circumstances are accounted for like non functional or dimmed brake lights, backing into a car stopped at a light, failing to yield right of way to avoid a collision that isn’t your fault ( you have the right of way, but you don’t yield to avoid a law breaker ). etc.

Ok, you think me and others criticizing this mod are whack and I in particular are making up far fetched cr@p. Bikers face this all the time. Some knucklehead strikes a motorcycle proclaiming “I didn’t see them”. Guess who gets charged?

And yes, it’s your truck and all, but when you operate it on public roads to the peril of other citizens, yeah, we have a say.
 
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it looks ok, but just know that you’re creating a reason for a traffic stop by doing it. And, you are ever involved in a collision and someone strikes you from the rear, or swerves to avoid you and strikes another vehicle or person, you’ll be considered strongly for being faulted in the collision.

What’s the worst that could happen, right?

you’re stopped at a light and a cell yakker behind you isn’t paying attention in their 7500 pound Excursion. They swerved around your stopped truck into a pedestrian walkway, killing 2, injuring 2 more. Because there’s a fatality, nobody leaves the scene until copious notes and photos are taken. While you’re standing around, cops chat you up about what a great truck you have, they really want one and are saving up. Where did you get the tint done?
Man, it is a really nice truck and great that your truck didn’t get hit.

A few minutes later another cop talks to you about the collision, and remarks about your cool looking truck. He was talking to the other cop and wants to know about your brake light tint. You know that’s illegal right? Driver X says that they couldn’t see your brake lights and at the last minute they swerved, and you just told officer Smith over there that you tinted your lights - which you just told me you knew was illegal. There’s 2 people dead here, do you think you bear any responsibility?

If you don’t think this can happen, you haven’t had a lot of interactions with cops, or count any as your friends.

could you seriously be cited? Hells yes, depending on the state, their vehicle equipment laws, case law and how they assess fault for vehicle collisions. Could you be arrested? I don’t know, but I think it’s a possibility.
Could you be successfully sued for “causing” the swerve or contributing to the cause of the collision resulting in injury or death.

Honestly, it would almost be worth quitting my job, going to and completing law school to take up the case above because you would lose and lose huge in court. If you modify a vehicle making it more difficult to see or observe and a collision ensues where this modification contributed to the cause, the only question is how much you’re going to pay, not if you’re going to pay.

blah, blah, blah, pay sufficient attention, blah, blah don’t follow too close and all that. I agree. But motor vehicle code has evolved over the years to roll in situations in which unusual circumstances are accounted for like non functional or dimmed brake lights, backing into a car stopped at a light, failing to yield right of way to avoid a collision that isn’t your fault ( you have the right of way, but you don’t yield to avoid a law breaker ). etc.

Ok, you think me and others criticizing this mod are whack and I in particular are making up far fetched cr@p. Bikers face this all the time. Some knucklehead strikes a motorcycle proclaiming “I didn’t see them”. Guess who gets charged?

And yes, it’s your truck and all, but when you operate it on public roads to the peril of other citizens, yeah, we have a say.

Some of you people are ridiculous! You are basing this on how many years of law enforcement experience? Or maybe you are a traffic attorney? How many years have you been in practice?

Laws are different in each state. Did you know in NJ uncovered led light bars are illegal? All the same arguments you make for the taillights can be also made for your light bars.

Again I didn’t ask you or anyone else for their opinion, I don’t really give a shit. I only asked for facts about the electronics in the taillight and how they might be effected.
 

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3rd brake lights are there for a reason... but TBH it doesn’t seem like it has very much output in the daytime


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Some of you people are ridiculous! You are basing this on how many years of law enforcement experience? Or maybe you are a traffic attorney? How many years have you been in practice?

Laws are different in each state. Did you know in NJ uncovered led light bars are illegal? All the same arguments you make for the taillights can be also made for your light bars.

Again I didn’t ask you or anyone else for their opinion, I don’t really give a shit. I only asked for facts about the electronics in the taillight and how they might be effected.

NJ... what isn’t illegal there?
uncovered red LED bars are illegal for non-LE or official use vehicles in quite a few states and is totally unrelated.

whether you give a $hit or not, the mod is one that could make it more likely someone misses your brake lights. that’s the point here, and I would urge you to not be so quick to shake it off.
 
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