Another Shady Dealer

[gkrane]

@bfr ...

Plus there's the caveat that they don't care if I back out of the deal. The Raptor will sell instantly if I quit now.

*first world problems but not a fun one!*

This is what I think my dealer is hoping for.

 

[Ford Truck 64]

So through another member on this forum I was able to secure 22 Raptor at 10k over. I understand everyone doesn’t agree with the whole paying over MSRP but unfortunately don’t have the luxury of waiting and the market seems to bear that.

Anyhow back to the story. Call the salesman I was referred to. He tells me truck is scheduled to be built within a 2-3 weeks and price is 78,450 + 10k which is the Pre 2/15 price. I agree, He sends me a build sheet that shows this price, at the bottom he adds 10K ADM tells me to sign send back and charges me 5K deposit. So because I have vin I have been checking tracker to see when truck would go into production. Well yesterday to my surprise truck shows in production with a window sticker. I click on sticker and see truck has the new pricing on sticker which makes sense because it is coming off the line after the increase date. Although I am pretty sure the dealer didn’t incur the increase as it was ordered Oct 21. So today I get a call from my salesman and he says good news and bad news. Good news is your truck is in production, bad news is price went up 3,300 and I need to pass that price on to you. So I very calmly and nicely tell him my understanding was that increase was for units ordered after 2/15, and that because they had ordered in Oct this unit should have still had old pricing. Even though the sticker was increased. He basically proceeds to say it’s not in dealer issue Ford increased the pricing and there is nothing he can do about it. If I don’t like it he will refund my money and basically pound sand.

To say I am fuming is a understatement. Dealer knew on 2/21 when we agreed on the deal that the trucks had gotten a increase. But this until clearly wasn’t affected because I have the build sheet with the old pricing. Now that the window sticker is available they are using it to squeeze another 3300 out of me when it didn’t cost them anymore money. Although I’m sure it will be a worthless conversation I place call to GM to voice my frustration. Hard to have any leverage with them when they know they will get 10k over sticker when it lands.

Second deal I have had that has went sideways. I am about over trying to get a GEN 3.

The dealership DID in fact incur the new pricing. Dealers are charged the "price level" for when the truck is invoiced. So if you ordered it at price level 215 and when it was finally invoiced at level 235 then that price increase is accurate and something you have to pay.
Only way that is not accurate is of the vehicle was registered in what we call "price protection"
Chances are that didn't happen.
These forums are interesting where the public assumes they think they know how allocation works and how pricing works.
Most of what I read from people is the furthest from the truth and how it works.

 

[RaptorWizard]

The dealership DID in fact incur the new pricing. Dealers are charged the "price level" for when the truck is invoiced. So if you ordered it at price level 215 and when it was finally invoiced at level 235 then that price increase is accurate and something you have to pay.
Only way that is not accurate is of the vehicle was registered in what we call "price protection"
Chances are that didn't happen.
These forums are interesting where the public assumes they think they know how allocation works and how pricing works.
Most of what I read from people is the furthest from the truth and how it works.

If a window sticker on a, not yet delivered truck, has a price of $77,855, but the build your own price on the website has a price of $83,183. What should the price actually be?

 

[Ford Truck 64]

The online "build your own price" is nothing more then a tool for someone to sit at home and spec out their dream truck and then pass those specs on to the dealer to place your retail order. Only way pricing stays the same is registering for "price protection" and the dealer does that on certain vehicles that is qualifies on.

 

[flwrappeder]

So through another member on this forum I was able to secure 22 Raptor at 10k over. I understand everyone doesn’t agree with the whole paying over MSRP but unfortunately don’t have the luxury of waiting and the market seems to bear that.

Anyhow back to the story. Call the salesman I was referred to. He tells me truck is scheduled to be built within a 2-3 weeks and price is 78,450 + 10k which is the Pre 2/15 price. I agree, He sends me a build sheet that shows this price, at the bottom he adds 10K ADM tells me to sign send back and charges me 5K deposit. So because I have vin I have been checking tracker to see when truck would go into production. Well yesterday to my surprise truck shows in production with a window sticker. I click on sticker and see truck has the new pricing on sticker which makes sense because it is coming off the line after the increase date. Although I am pretty sure the dealer didn’t incur the increase as it was ordered Oct 21. So today I get a call from my salesman and he says good news and bad news. Good news is your truck is in production, bad news is price went up 3,300 and I need to pass that price on to you. So I very calmly and nicely tell him my understanding was that increase was for units ordered after 2/15, and that because they had ordered in Oct this unit should have still had old pricing. Even though the sticker was increased. He basically proceeds to say it’s not in dealer issue Ford increased the pricing and there is nothing he can do about it. If I don’t like it he will refund my money and basically pound sand.

To say I am fuming is a understatement. Dealer knew on 2/21 when we agreed on the deal that the trucks had gotten a increase. But this until clearly wasn’t affected because I have the build sheet with the old pricing. Now that the window sticker is available they are using it to squeeze another 3300 out of me when it didn’t cost them anymore money. Although I’m sure it will be a worthless conversation I place call to GM to voice my frustration. Hard to have any leverage with them when they know they will get 10k over sticker when it lands.

Second deal I have had that has went sideways. I am about over trying to get a GEN 3.

Dude screw the GM, hit up the property appraiser site in your county and find the owner. I did that with an issue with my daughters car and it really got his attention that I wasn’t in the mood for anymore of his employee’s bullish!t and he made it right.

 

[Hotrod-Realtor]

Dude screw the GM, hit up the property appraiser site in your county and find the owner. I did that with an issue with my daughters car and it really got his attention that I wasn’t in the mood for anymore of his employee’s bullish!t and he made it right.

I like the way you roll.

 

[flwrappeder]

I like the way you roll.

I stay outside the box. Never been in the box. Sheep stay in the box.