All-New Ford F-150 Raptor Will Debut Feb. 3

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Guaranteed they wont release any hp numbers on Feb 3 . My prediction 475 hp engine + 75 hp electric . 550 hp and 650 ft/lbs torque total combined. Defiantly give TRX run for the money at least to 75mph . Release is going to be more about suspension ,styling , interior , powering you camp site with the generator . They will talk about the Raptor R V8 No HP numbers . Then Ram will do the redeye motor once ford release HP #s . All marketing.
 

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Guaranteed they wont release any hp numbers on Feb 3 . My prediction 475 hp engine + 75 hp electric . 550 hp and 650 ft/lbs torque total combined. Defiantly give TRX run for the money at least to 75mph . Release is going to be more about suspension ,styling , interior , powering you camp site with the generator . They will talk about the Raptor R V8 No HP numbers . Then Ram will do the redeye motor once ford release HP #s . All marketing.

I was thinking they would go hybrid + eco too, but, I’ve become skeptical of this.

Check out the Aviator vs. Aviator GT vs. explorer ST. All have the same 3.0TT at 400hp, the GT gets the hybrid power plant.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a29676290/2020-lincoln-aviator-grand-touring-by-the-numbers/

2020 Ford Explorer First Test: 3 Rows, 3 Engines, and ...www.motortrend.com › cars › ford › explorer › 2020

Explorer ST is good for a high 13 quarter mile, the aviator is good for 13.6 @103. It’s not insignificant, but it’s basically 650 pounds extra weight for .3 in the quarter mile.

Ford just put the Raptor on a diet, went to aluminum panels, and did a bang up job of making a lighter, more efficient, quicker accelerating, faster, and better handling Raptor. There is no way they can use the hybrid powertrain and keep the weight under Gen1 spec. much less gen 2 spec. Even if they were to get to 480hp from the gas engine, you’re getting to maybe 580?hp, with a half a ton of torque. You think the electronic nannies are bothersome now? Wait until you put an electric power plant behind the already powerful gas motor... The Gen 2 can overwhelm the rear tires now, so let’s set that side.

let’s get back to the weight. Maybe it was Ford’s plan all along to lighten the trucks and make them more compatible with current electric tech. I don’t think so. I think that Ford was preparing to transition to electric power on about a 10-15 year schedule and I think they were planning to ride the Ecoboost into the ICE sunset still meeting cafe and carb numbers and selling every one they make. Until Dodge upended the apple cart and quite literally sent Ford scrambling to protect the name and reputation of it’s to date, completely unchallenged industry leader. My thinking is that Ford was planning to skip a year or 2 of production and had zero intention of a v8 power plant and that they considered the TRX to be vaporware. Obviously that turned out to be false, and either way, I believe they ramped up production scheduling to preserve market share. I would expect this truck to be less refined and more bug prone than the ’17 was; still good, but rushed.

I don’t think we see a hybrid power plant in the Rap. I think they will go for bigger power from the Eco. There’s plenty there. My thinking is, possibly more of the GT parts work their way into the Rap power plant or newer ones, bigger turbos, better intercooler revised tuning and a pretty significant increase in power. If they do this, and can keep the weight the same, or drop some pounds, they’ll have a competitive truck.
 

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Is it just me or is anyone else kinda pumped that the new 21 isn’t super updated making the gen 2 look too dated!?


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I probably wouldn’t lose much sleep over it, if it was. Styles of vehicles can can be changed up in a big way or modest from Gen to Gen. Ford did a modest upgrade with the Gen
13 F-150. So the Raptor followed suite.
 

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Guaranteed they wont release any hp numbers on Feb 3 . My prediction 475 hp engine + 75 hp electric . 550 hp and 650 ft/lbs torque total combined. Defiantly give TRX run for the money at least to 75mph . Release is going to be more about suspension ,styling , interior , powering you camp site with the generator . They will talk about the Raptor R V8 No HP numbers . Then Ram will do the redeye motor once ford release HP #s . All marketing.

Im really not sure of the hybrid coming just yet. I’d love to see it for many reasons, but a lot of what @smurfslayer makes good sense.

We never saw power numbers at the F-150 release, so I’m with you there. Unless maybe they are way way up. I can imagine if the R comes then sooner or later Ram may go crazy and use a redeye. But Ford won’t put all 760 ponies in the Raptor either and they can sandbag it for now as well.

Interesting at the very least.
 

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So thinking you will be one of the lucky ones able to buy at MSRP.


fingers crossed, lol. my dealership is usually pretty aggressive with our pricing and i doubt we will add much onto it. the only vehicles here that had any mark up in the last year were the gt500's. otherwise, we are at msrp or closer to invoice on the high volume vehicles.

right now, i have 3 guys wanting to order, including me, so i'm hoping we get enough allocations.
 

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First Gen3 orders open in july then built in oct -nov of 2021 as a 2022 . Then Ramp 59 Crap all over again .Hybrid only at first then Raptor R mid year 2022 .


That's a decent theory, except the Ford promo image says MY 2021. My guess is they take orders right when they announce, since that's exactly what they did with the Bronco, and orders still aren't built yet. I do agree that the R will likely come later, but like smurfslayer, I'm no longer thinking powerboost will be available. His theory on Ford not wanting to throw in the extra weight makes sense, and leaked material hints to no hybrid. I do think we will end up seeing a hybrid option before Gen 4 though. And I wouldn't be surprised if Ford sells a limited number of R versions.

Sidenote: It's going to get really confusing around here if people post their speculation without clarifying that it's just speculation, not something Ford has actually stated yet.
 

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That's a decent theory, except the Ford promo image says MY 2021. My guess is they take orders right when they announce, since that's exactly what they did with the Bronco, and orders still aren't built yet. I do agree that the R will likely come later, but like smurfslayer, I'm no longer thinking powerboost will be available. His theory on Ford not wanting to throw in the extra weight makes sense, and leaked material hints to no hybrid. I do think we will end up seeing a hybrid option before Gen 4 though. And I wouldn't be surprised if Ford sells a limited number of R versions.

Sidenote: It's going to get really confusing around here if people post their speculation without clarifying that it's just speculation, not something Ford has actually stated yet.

Right on. No PowerBoost option will be available on the Gen 3 Raptor.
 
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