Airbags?

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Ox3721

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Don’t have the Eibachs yet, but my wife wants to go camping this weekend and I had a couple hours to burn after work today. Figured I could at least try out the bags and see how she tows our Ember TT.

I’m guessing the installation instructions from AirLift have you completely remove the springs for safety. I can’t see any other reason because it is SUPER easy leaving the springs in and just jacking up either side. I went with the 2 into 1 setup with one valve for a cleaner install and since I don’t see any reason why I would need to have the springs not at equal pressure.

It could be my measuring was a little inconsistent, but it seems like with just the bags in at atmospheric pressure, the rear end is about 1/4” higher than before.

Even more surprising (in a good way) is that with only 15 psi, it’s raised up about 5/8” unloaded.

Headed out now to do a quick drive to see how they are unloaded and then hook up the camper.
 

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@MORK did you install the upper spacers as well?
Don’t have the Eibachs yet, but my wife wants to go camping this weekend and I had a couple hours to burn after work today. Figured I could at least try out the bags and see how she tows our Ember TT.

I’m guessing the installation instructions from AirLift have you completely remove the springs for safety. I can’t see any other reason because it is SUPER easy leaving the springs in and just jacking up either side. I went with the 2 into 1 setup with one valve for a cleaner install and since I don’t see any reason why I would need to have the springs not at equal pressure.

It could be my measuring was a little inconsistent, but it seems like with just the bags in at atmospheric pressure, the rear end is about 1/4” higher than before.

Even more surprising (in a good way) is that with only 15 psi, it’s raised up about 5/8” unloaded.

Headed out now to do a quick drive to see how they are unloaded and then hook up the camper.
Anxiously awaiting your next post!!
 

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Interesting - what psi were you running? I imagine that with how far these coils expand, you could only run so many psi before a bubble like that would protrude.

Finished install for reference:
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I’m also quite happy with my Schrader location :)

With no load, I’ve been keeping at most a couple psi in them so they maintain contact pressure - even at 5psi, you can notice the increased spring rate.
Running about 40 PSI. Swapping out for HD 1000 Raptor. Since I will be changing the airbags, I am changing the spring with 1.5 inch lift Eibachs. I'm still struggling on if I can remove the tailgate without messing up the 360 cameras. I have had some conflicting info.
Eibach 21-23 Ford F-150 Raptor Pro-Lift Kit 1.5 Inch Rear Springs E30-35-060-02-02DMWF|E30-35-060-02-02
 

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Does one lose any travel with bags?
If its Gen 3 , the air lift coil bag sits inside the coil so the travel should be standard OEM, bags should have minimum pressure so spring can move.

If Gen 2 , leaf spring, best to use a DayStar cradle for bottom of air bag which will not restrict the travel since the bottom of airbag is NOT attached to the axle.
 

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If its Gen 3 , the air lift coil bag sits inside the coil so the travel should be standard OEM, bags should have minimum pressure so spring can move.

If Gen 2 , leaf spring, best to use a DayStar cradle for bottom of air bag which will not restrict the travel since the bottom of airbag is NOT attached to the axle.

Gen 3 (we're in gen 3 forums)

So no loss of travel? Those spacers they include don't limit anything?
 

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Finally got around to installing the airbags this weekend.
The install can be done without removing the springs but it sure was a pain to squeeze the airbag in between the spring, the more you flatten it the wider it makes it.
Overall straight forward install, I ran the airlines through the frame from the top of the spring to the back near the bumper as you can see photos. I used 3/8" wire loom around the airlines in the locations that it makes contact with an edge to protect it.
I haven't mounted the valve yet and wanted to see how everyone else was doing it. I like the idea through the license plate screws.
@Ox3721 did you drill through the hitch mount for the valve or is that an existing hole?

I took some measurements and at 5psi I see about 1/4" or so of lift in the rear from stock. At 30psi with no load it raised the rear 1".

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