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Advice on how to get a Raptor R in the future
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This thread has me a little disappointed, (with comparisons being made to the Ford GT). I was thinking that the R being made to beat the TRX in hp and straight line acceleration that Ford would make it as easily available as RAM did the TRX.
Olsen Motorsports
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If it’s rare or not at the point is all subjective and pure speculation. No one knows! I’m planning for the future on it being that way. Started my quest for one back in February when it was announced. I’m 99% feeling like I won’t get one but I’m trying to position myself so if it’s rare we get one! Who knows.
Kaz109
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You haven't been around long have you? Lol.....look at how easy it was to get a redeye or demon compared to a GT350r or GT500. Ford knows and the dealerships know they have a superior product. For all we know Ford could double down on the R being even more superior in it's off road branding and say to hell with all you payment princesses wanting your off road truck to be king of the mall strip.
We just dont know yet, but what I am 100% sure of is this R will not be as easy to get as a Vegas strip ****** like the trx is. Hell you can already order a 2022 trx for 5k off MSRP lol.....whens the last time you could walk into Ford and order a GT350r/GT500 or Raptor for 5k off MSRP just shortly after it being released? That was a rhetorical question but you get the picture
I reluctantly agree with you. Based on this thread, a peon such as myself has little to no chance of getting one of these, even if I’m willing to pay over MSRP.
Kaz109
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@Russ103 and anybody else hoping to get this R at MSRP, I'll tell you my personal stories , maybe other ppl have a different perspective and feel free to tell your story of the other end of the spectrum
My wife and I since about 2005 have bought roughly 14 ( give or take) vehicles and in doing so have built up a rapport with lots of dealerships , I have worked with dealerships and I have two family friends that own car dealerships. I say all that to say this......
I was asking a Ford fleet manager and general manager about the Gen 3 raptor allocation and also spoke about the R and this is what I was told, they have a regular customer that buys 10-15 fleet trucks a year since and last year near the end of the year that same customer needed a tax write off so he purchased 50 F-250 . That same customer buys a new raptor every 2 years and they sell it to him at invoice minus the holdback. I was also told if they get allocation for an R they will sell it to this customer at MSRP, if he doesn't want it they will have a 50k ADM.
Same situation at a Dodge/Ram dealership, the owner sold his first TRX allocation for MSRP to a customer that buys 10 trucks a year for his business. The owner has had 10 more trx and and 4 392 wrangler and all have sold for a minimum of 10k ADM ( a trx and 392 wrangler were sold to a player on the Raiders so odds are he got more than 10k adam for those)
So to get back to @Russ103 reply to me, yes you and me and a lot of other ppl are peons who I dont see getting our hands on an R. I feel like all of us who bought a raptor have more disposable cash to spend on toys than the average American/Canadian but the question becomes how much are you willing to spend? The same ppl here that just want the high HP pavement princess bragging rights are also competing with ppl who already have 4 or 5 300k exotics that just want to add this truck to the collection, and that's not even getting into local and global celebrities. I feel like sometimes ppl forget just how much money there is out there and ppl get fooled into thinking only the Kardashians have it.
Lastly my opinion is if you have a chance to get a Raptor R at 10k over MSRP get it in writing and sign the paper asap, or if u want the same thing and much less exclusive then wait for Ram to release the redeye version of the TRX. It will happen and odds are it will be better on pavement than a raptor R while being much cheaper .
Long rant but honest and not meant to throw shade at anyone , just perspective
My wife and I since about 2005 have bought roughly 14 ( give or take) vehicles and in doing so have built up a rapport with lots of dealerships , I have worked with dealerships and I have two family friends that own car dealerships. I say all that to say this......
I was asking a Ford fleet manager and general manager about the Gen 3 raptor allocation and also spoke about the R and this is what I was told, they have a regular customer that buys 10-15 fleet trucks a year since and last year near the end of the year that same customer needed a tax write off so he purchased 50 F-250 . That same customer buys a new raptor every 2 years and they sell it to him at invoice minus the holdback. I was also told if they get allocation for an R they will sell it to this customer at MSRP, if he doesn't want it they will have a 50k ADM.
Same situation at a Dodge/Ram dealership, the owner sold his first TRX allocation for MSRP to a customer that buys 10 trucks a year for his business. The owner has had 10 more trx and and 4 392 wrangler and all have sold for a minimum of 10k ADM ( a trx and 392 wrangler were sold to a player on the Raiders so odds are he got more than 10k adam for those)
So to get back to @Russ103 reply to me, yes you and me and a lot of other ppl are peons who I dont see getting our hands on an R. I feel like all of us who bought a raptor have more disposable cash to spend on toys than the average American/Canadian but the question becomes how much are you willing to spend? The same ppl here that just want the high HP pavement princess bragging rights are also competing with ppl who already have 4 or 5 300k exotics that just want to add this truck to the collection, and that's not even getting into local and global celebrities. I feel like sometimes ppl forget just how much money there is out there and ppl get fooled into thinking only the Kardashians have it.
Lastly my opinion is if you have a chance to get a Raptor R at 10k over MSRP get it in writing and sign the paper asap, or if u want the same thing and much less exclusive then wait for Ram to release the redeye version of the TRX. It will happen and odds are it will be better on pavement than a raptor R while being much cheaper .
Long rant but honest and not meant to throw shade at anyone , just perspective
hyrepower
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$$$$ about sums it up
melvimbe
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I agree with @Kaz109 if the Raptor is produced in limited quantities, which is entirely possible. It stands to reason as well that Ford doesn't want to produce these in such low numbers that it's only attainable to the top 5%, off limits to a typical guy who could afford a lux vehicle and would actually want to take it off road. Sure, keeping it limited helps make it special and doesn't hurt the CAFE numbers too much, but what's the point of an offroad vehicle that's so rare that it seems foolish to risk taking it offroad?
Best to just wait and see. Chances are, only the wealthy and connected will get the first batch or two, but we don't know after that. If it's something your willing to do the leg work for, then do it.
Best to just wait and see. Chances are, only the wealthy and connected will get the first batch or two, but we don't know after that. If it's something your willing to do the leg work for, then do it.
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