35 VS. 37 = SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

[EMY92]

Someone is going to have to tell Town East Ford that the 10 or so 35s they're advertising with a 30,000 ADM must be a typo. They should have them listed at a discount to get them off the lot.

 

[ME120]

I don't mean to be confrontational, but you couldn't be further from the truth. The only thing I "agree" with you on is that the demand for 37's is higher than that of the 35's, but not at the 80-90% clip you're claiming. I'd say it's more 60/40...maybe 65/35. The dealership I'm purchasing my 35 through has already received 3 35's, all of which sold before they even hit the lot. That's just my dealership alone. Having searched all of the other dealerships within a 500 mile radius in hopes that maybe they got my same exact configuration before my order came in, none of them can even keep a 35 on the lot for more than a day, and that's only if they didn't sell before hitting the lot.

All I'm say is be careful what biased information you put out here because most of us have been in the trenches and can easily refute your claims. Again, not trying to be a Delta Bravo, but making sure accurate info is being put out there.

Thats fine , your entitled to your opinion. Opinions are like ********, everybody has one. I can only speak for the three dealers I have spoke with and one of them is the dealer I bought my GT 350 R, GT 500 CFTP, and my 2019 raptor from all at MSRP, except the raptor I bought at $ 5000.00 under MSRP. What I am being told is that the 37 package is becoming almost impossible to get a allocation because ford will not commit to most dealers. 35's ON THE OTHER HAND are a dime a dozen. The smart buyer will be patient because 35's will drop in price due to over production, just like the 2019-2020 raptors did before covid.

 

[ME120]

yes send me those 3 dealers also. I've been waiting for 7 months for a 35 package @ $1k over MSRP. OP is wrong on many levels.

Again opinions are like ********, everybody has one. Only idiots pay over MSRP.

 

[ME120]

Someone is going to have to tell Town East Ford that the 10 or so 35s they're advertising with a 30,000 ADM must be a typo. They should have them listed at a discount to get them off the lot.

The only reason they have them listed with ADM's is because their are idiots who are willing to buy them.

 

[RaptorFan1988]

The only reason they have them listed with ADM's is because their are idiots who are willing to buy them.

When you put it that way its almost as if....that's what demand is????

 

[ME120]

When you put it that way its almost as if....that's what demand is????

You are 100 percent correct. Idiots create the demand, which allow dishonest dealerships to charge ADM's so the dealership owner can own 3 homes and spend the winter skiing at his winter home while the idiots pay the ADM's so he can afford his " ski Resort in stow, Vermont" .

 

[RogueAdvisor]

Thats fine , your entitled to your opinion. Opinions are like ********, everybody has one. I can only speak for the three dealers I have spoke with and one of them is the dealer I bought my GT 350 R, GT 500 CFTP, and my 2019 raptor from all at MSRP, except the raptor I bought at $ 5000.00 under MSRP. What I am being told is that the 37 package is becoming almost impossible to get a allocation because ford will not commit to most dealers. 35's ON THE OTHER HAND are a dime a dozen. The smart buyer will be patient because 35's will drop in price due to over production, just like the 2019-2020 raptors did before covid.

With all due respect, my statement is no more opinion than yours is. You stated facts based on conversation with the three dealers you spoke with. I stated facts based on experience with mine, as well as surrounding dealers. Very little opinion in the mix other than the perceived ratio of 37:35.

 

[David1986]

Over production? Dealer can only order retail orders where I live...no dealer stock. I will patiently wait till I can purchase under MSRP. My dealer is Great and will order currently at MSRP, however I'm in no hurry. If I'm not able to ever get one below MSRP, then I will do without. I was very blessed to purchase my last 3 under MSRP although I did have to wait when others were Enjoying theirs.

Got lucky on my last 2020 and purchased when the pandemic started.

 

[GordoJay]

You are 100 percent correct. Idiots create the demand, which allow dishonest dealerships to charge ADM's so the dealership owner can own 3 homes and spend the winter skiing at his winter home while the idiots pay the ADM's so he can afford his " ski Resort in stow, Vermont" .

If there are lots of idiots creating demand, then how in the heck will prices fall so far, so fast? And I notice that you mention stuff you have heard from dealers. You do know that of all the people in the auto industry, dealers rank #1, #2, and #3 in cluelessness, don't you? The tone of this thread and your responses sound trollish to me. If I'm wrong, I'll apologize. But I need some actual information before I will admit that I'm wrong. Opinion, second-hand at that, and wild guessing about the future coupled with an inflammatory tone have all of my red flags flying.

 

[BC119]

I can’t believe what I just read. Please go find me three dealers who have a 35 in stock and will sell for msrp. I bet you’ll have trouble finding one. As someone else said, sure alot will let you order one and who knows what you’ll end up paying. There won’t be great deals on 35 in June or July. Ford’s CEO has already came out and said he expect chip shortage to go into 2023. Not to mention, in a normal year there are rarely great deals on raptors.

This post screams to me of someone who wants something and is holding out hope of the improbable.

There are always great deals on trucks, they're some of the highest margin vehicles on the market lol.