35 VS. 37 = SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

[smurfslayer]

A dealer would have to be an idiot to sell a high value item lower than what the market dictates

That’s one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is that it’s short sighted, and potentially disloyal. As an example, I’d take all my business elsewhere if ADM were part of negotiations with my local stealership. Service, sales and any future deals. It may well limit my business options going forward, but that’s a chance I’ll take. now If they calculate that they’ll make more money ignoring me, despite my seeming addiction to tech, vehicles, speed, etc. maybe they can make that money. But maybe over the course of the next few years they’ll make a bit more by giving up a little gratuitous profit for money down the road.

Someone will make the deal, them or another stealership.

BOTTOMLINE WHO CARES why a person would bash another for paying whatever for a truck is crazy, it’s not their money. I agreed to pay $5k over, BFD

I think quite a few people on here are affected when people flood in and artificially inflate the market. When it becomes a wallet waving contest, Raptors end up sitting in climate controlled storage doing nothing, or being paraded to the local starbucks instead of getting into the hands of people who might actually appreciate them.
(not saying you either are or are not appreciative of the truck, my comments are general)

Nothing idiotic about it at all, for a couple reasons. One is that charging ADM can get you a bad reputation.

Bingo.

You don't want to lose those customers by maxing out profit on a single deal.

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I think most of the complaint stems for the fact that people buying vehicles with crazy ADM helps keep the practice of crazy ADM alive. If no one bought vehicles like that, then we would never see ADM.

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That said, I don't see $5k as a big deal at this high price point.

meh... $2k. $5k is just paying to sent the sales manager to Tahiti instead of Hawaii.

 

[ME120]

That’s one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is that it’s short sighted, and potentially disloyal. As an example, I’d take all my business elsewhere if ADM were part of negotiations with my local stealership. Service, sales and any future deals. It may well limit my business options going forward, but that’s a chance I’ll take. now If they calculate that they’ll make more money ignoring me, despite my seeming addiction to tech, vehicles, speed, etc. maybe they can make that money. But maybe over the course of the next few years they’ll make a bit more by giving up a little gratuitous profit for money down the road.

Someone will make the deal, them or another stealership.


I think quite a few people on here are affected when people flood in and artificially inflate the market. When it becomes a wallet waving contest, Raptors end up sitting in climate controlled storage doing nothing, or being paraded to the local starbucks instead of getting into the hands of people who might actually appreciate them.
(not saying you either are or are not appreciative of the truck, my comments are general)


Bingo.

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meh... $2k. $5k is just paying to sent the sales manager to Tahiti instead of Hawaii.

very well said.

 

[22R37]

Again opinions are like ********, everybody has one. Only idiots pay over MSRP.

I don’t appreciate you calling me an idiot. Although I didn’t pay it yet ( didn’t get the truck yet) I agreed to pay. Actually I have three orders pending: two 35 for 5k and one 37 for 10 k. I was calling dealers in 500 miles radius for weeks just to see one in real life and specifically the Ricaro seats and could not find one ( not even the overproduced POS nobody wants dealership lots overflowing 35s). So I agreed to pay ADM because this trucks are few and far between, because I want it, because I can afford it and I don’t have time to wait for the price to come down.
Im not rich.I didn’t steal my money didn’t find it and didn’t inherit it.I was working hard for it and now I can hardly wait to pay the ADM so I could enjoy my new and first Raptor and travel and explore this beautiful country
And by calling people you don’t know and never met idiots only shows who the real IDIOT is

 

[ME120]

I don’t appreciate you calling me an idiot. Although I didn’t pay it yet ( didn’t get the truck yet) I agreed to pay. Actually I have three orders pending: two 35 for 5k and one 37 for 10 k. I was calling dealers in 500 miles radius for weeks just to see one in real life and specifically the Ricaro seats and could not find one ( not even the overproduced POS nobody wants dealership lots overflowing 35s). So I agreed to pay ADM because this trucks are few and far between, because I want it, because I can afford it and I don’t have time to wait for the price to come down.
Im not rich.I didn’t steal my money didn’t find it and didn’t inherit it.I was working hard for it and now I can hardly wait to pay the ADM so I could enjoy my new and first Raptor and travel and explore this beautiful country
And by calling people you don’t know and never met idiots only shows who the real IDIOT is

typical reply by someone from New York. this is why dealerships get away with charging over msrp.

 

[22R37]

typical reply by someone from New York. this is why dealerships get away with charging over msrp.

I’m from NY but my dealers are not

 

[PK37]

Hey…. NY people are alright!! Listen, if you want it, can get it and can write the check ….. Pay whatever you feel it’s worth you… I was lucky, my local dealer had 3-35, 1-37 allocated… I got the 37 at MSRP, but I do all my Ford business with them.. It’s a great truck, the guys that are waiting will absolutely love them!!

 

[K9 EXPERT]

That’s one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is that it’s short sighted, and potentially disloyal. As an example, I’d take all my business elsewhere if ADM were part of negotiations with my local stealership. Service, sales and any future deals. It may well limit my business options going forward, but that’s a chance I’ll take. now If they calculate that they’ll make more money ignoring me, despite my seeming addiction to tech, vehicles, speed, etc. maybe they can make that money. But maybe over the course of the next few years they’ll make a bit more by giving up a little gratuitous profit for money down the road.

Someone will make the deal, them or another stealership.


I think quite a few people on here are affected when people flood in and artificially inflate the market. When it becomes a wallet waving contest, Raptors end up sitting in climate controlled storage doing nothing, or being paraded to the local starbucks instead of getting into the hands of people who might actually appreciate them.
(not saying you either are or are not appreciative of the truck, my comments are general)


Bingo.

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meh... $2k. $5k is just paying to sent the sales manager to Tahiti instead of Hawaii.

To each their own, but here is no loyal in business, unless you are a high volume client. If one person will pay a premium and another cannot, that is capitalis. Those that can will, those that can’t will *****, human nature.

 

[K9 EXPERT]

So if we are going by your take, why is your dealer only charging you $5k? I’ve seen many go for $10-20k ADM. Why did your dealer leave money on the table? It took me 2 months to find an out of state dealer on a 22 37pp for MSRP. There are dealers out there that just want to take care of customers. Very few sure, but they do exist

I won’t know he did until I get the truck, or not.

 

[K9 EXPERT]

I won’t know he did until I get the truck, or not.

Plus it took me 10 minutes, not two months. If the dealership holds its promise, I will post the truck and contract. I invite MSRP people to do the same.

 

[ME120]

To each their own, but here is no loyal in business, unless you are a high volume client. If one person will pay a premium and another cannot, that is capitalis. Those that can will, those that can’t will *****, human nature.

and those that do are idiots for overpaying for a depreciating asset. Kind of like buying a stock at it's high when stocks EPS is overvalued, something they don't teach you at Harvard business school. As Warren Buffet says, " get greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy " .