GEN 2 2017 BF Goodrich Tires

[mwm5094]

Also, I will add...... If the KO2s on the Raptor holds up about the same as on my F350, everyone is going to hate them just like I do. I have had them on the truck for about 15,000 miles and I would be surprised to get another 5,000 out of them. Wet traction also blows.

I talked to the BFG guys at SEMA a few months back and they seemed surprised at how fast they were wearing then commented "they were never designed for heavier trucks, blah blah".

 

[Elite_KG]

So basically my tires are irreplaceable. That seems fudged up to me.

Can I at least buy them from Ford?

Basically, yes. OE tires cannot be purchased by individuals. It is very F-ed up in my opinion. Its marketimg strategy. Your new car has a tailored tire so it feels and performs well. You want to buy the same tire once the originals need replacing, but what you buy/get is a generic version of the tire even though it is seemingly specked identically. Im not saying replacement tires are bad, they are just not equivalent to OE because they are produced to be applicable to many vehicles while OE is compunded for one make/model of vehicle.

Needless to say I was floored when I became privy to this information. Jokingly I asked one of our tire plants if I could get an OE replacement set off the line and they laughed saying its impossible. OE contracts forbid it.

 

[GRutter]

Your information is misleading.
I worked for a major tire manufacturer for 30+ years, and a supplier to Ford.
It is normal practice for tires to be spec'd and designed specifically to a vehicles ride, performance, speed, handling, & suspension characteristics. The Raptor is no different. After the tire is produced, it is tested for balance, runout, conicity, radial and lateral harmonics, and appearance. Tires meeting or exceeding OE specifications are 'OE' tires. Tires failing any of the tests are 'Replacement' Tires. Car manufacturers also will only accept tires manufactured within a certain date range of vehicle production. So OE rated tires that are "too old" are also re-classified as "replacement" tires. There are always "replacement" tires in the distribution channel, but manufactures know that the demand for replacement tires after a vehicle is released is low, as no-one has yet worn out their OE tires.

 

[Mink]

I wonder how much ride quality I guy would loss with the 10 ply ko2"s

 

[mwm5094]

I wonder how much ride quality I guy would loss with the 10 ply ko2"s

I assume you are referring to the E rated tires? If so, the sidewall is only 3 ply but the tire is 10 total.

I have 285/65/20 on my F350. 80psi rear, 65 psi front. They ride good. No different than the set of Michelin tires I had on the truck before the KO2s.

 

[crash457]

Basically, yes. OE tires cannot be purchased by individuals. It is very F-ed up in my opinion. Its marketimg strategy. Your new car has a tailored tire so it feels and performs well. You want to buy the same tire once the originals need replacing, but what you buy/get is a generic version of the tire even though it is seemingly specked identically. Im not saying replacement tires are bad, they are just not equivalent to OE because they are produced to be applicable to many vehicles while OE is compunded for one make/model of vehicle.

Needless to say I was floored when I became privy to this information. Jokingly I asked one of our tire plants if I could get an OE replacement set off the line and they laughed saying its impossible. OE contracts forbid it.

1. You're wrong.

2. Even if you weren't wrong (and you definitely are), how is it a marketing strategy if you can't sell anything other than the first set of tires. That is the exact opposite of marketing.

3. The truth is this: OEM tires are developed by a tire mfg to the specs of the auto mfg. They may not use those specs to make another tire that competes with it (same size, load rating, tread compound, etc.) They can continue to make the same tire OEM and offer it to the MFG, dealers and tire retailers as an OEM spec tire. Its is made exactly the same way and in the same place and using the same materials as the tire that cam OEM on the vehicle.

 

[Elite_KG]

You can think or believe whatever you wish buddy! No sweat off my balls. I can certainly state I am not wrong.

I dont post much and was just trying to offer information that is unavailable and unknown to most; including you it appears. This information comes straight from some of the largest tire manufacturing and tire design sites in the US and Canada.

I get the overwhelming impression you have no idea what you speak of.

OE tires are vehicle specific and coded accordingly.

1. You're wrong.

2. Even if you weren't wrong (and you definitely are), how is it a marketing strategy if you can't sell anything other than the first set of tires. That is the exact opposite of marketing.

3. The truth is this: OEM tires are developed by a tire mfg to the specs of the auto mfg. They may not use those specs to make another tire that competes with it (same size, load rating, tread compound, etc.) They can continue to make the same tire OEM and offer it to the MFG, dealers and tire retailers as an OEM spec tire. Its is made exactly the same way and in the same place and using the same materials as the tire that cam OEM on the vehicle.

---------- Post added at 06:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:14 PM ----------

Your information is misleading.
I worked for a major tire manufacturer for 30+ years, and a supplier to Ford.
It is normal practice for tires to be spec'd and designed specifically to a vehicles ride, performance, speed, handling, & suspension characteristics. The Raptor is no different. After the tire is produced, it is tested for balance, runout, conicity, radial and lateral harmonics, and appearance. Tires meeting or exceeding OE specifications are 'OE' tires. Tires failing any of the tests are 'Replacement' Tires. Car manufacturers also will only accept tires manufactured within a certain date range of vehicle production. So OE rated tires that are "too old" are also re-classified as "replacement" tires. There are always "replacement" tires in the distribution channel, but manufactures know that the demand for replacement tires after a vehicle is released is low, as no-one has yet worn out their OE tires.

This may infact be the case for the company you reference, but redistributed OE tires will likely not be applied to the vehicle for which it was specified. So misleading is subject to interpretation.

Counting on purchasing a redisteibuted OE tire that matches the vehicle you drive woukd be like planning to win the lottery.

Its striking to see how difficult trying to "help" or "contribute" is here.

Again, you can think ro beleive what you wish.

 

[pjones]

So what exactly is the difference between an OE tire and one that is marked like OE but not?

What Grutter said makes sense to me, but what do I know.

 

[NASSTY]

How many times does this link need to be posted? Tire Rack sells the Ford version of the 315/70/17 KO2 dirt cheap. Currently $210.22 each plus shipping.https://www.tirerack.com/cart/HoldingArea.jsp?hideOptionError=true

 

[bailer]

KO2 performance

So far, with under a 1000km to date:
The tires ride quiet and smooth on pavement.
They throw a crazy amount of stones compared to other tires I have run. I had to drive 10 miles of gravel road. I kept my speed to 35mph and it was still horrible.
Got to my destination and hopped in my friend's SuperDuty with Duratracs and they were so much better!!! I've run Nitto Trailgrapplers which were also excellent for not throwing stones, not as quiet but acceptable.
I'll probably wear out the KO2's first, but hate having to avoid gravel roads, but not quite as much as chipping up my trailer and truck!!!