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    2017 SCAB Trade Value

    Someone reported the other day trading his in for $5k under MSRP.
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    Thinking of getting a Raptor....what color though.

    you sure about that? http://www.windowsticker.forddirect.com/windowsticker.pdf?vin=%201FTEW1EP6JFB14955
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    Advice / Thoughts on Used 2017?

    If you wanted a desert runner, you definitely overpaid buying a Raptor. Better and cheaper to get a used truck and slap on superior components.
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    Advice / Thoughts on Used 2017?

    Good thing you don't live in Europe. Many houses over there are older than the United States.
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    Advice / Thoughts on Used 2017?

    My situation is the opposite, this is the first new vehicle I've ever owned because I always let someone else take the initial depreciation hit. But when 2014 Raptors with 60k miles were selling for more than $50k, it made little sense for me to buy used. I am very happy with my 2017 and have...
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    Thinking of getting a Raptor....what color though.

    That dark primer gray seems to be the "flavor of the month" and I see all kinds of Japanese hatchbacks with it. Most people don't keep a vehicle very long so this might not matter, but trendy things tend to look dated in a few years.
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    Dealer inventory: Scab vs. Screw

    Scabs are a little more common than that because most are special order and wouldn't show up on Autotrader. In 2017 when raptorfinder listed all vin built, Scabs were about 10%.
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    Weather Mode or 4 Auto

    If you have the Torsen diff, it makes the steering feel different in 4A/4H because it pushes power to the inside wheel in a turn and gives the steering wheel a rubberband centering feel. Also, 4A often sends power to the rears, so there is nothing unusual.
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    Garage Kept or Outside in the Elements

    Most "garaged cars" spend all day soaking up the Sun's rays in a surface parking lot at work. And most cars seem to handle it well.
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    GEN 2 Why does the bluetooth phone interface suck so bad?

    Under Settings>Sound>Ringer, turn “change with buttons” to off and the truck will stop turning up your ringer volume.
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    Does Anyone actually buy a Raptor at MSRP?

    There is the saved sales tax as you mentioned, but I was actually talking about income tax. So far the government hasn't figured out a way to tax us on the money we save by hunting for a good deal. Depending on tax bracket, it could take $10k of income to pay a $5k ADM.
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    Does Anyone actually buy a Raptor at MSRP?

    Not sure what you do for a living, but $5k for two days of easy, tax free "work" is pretty good for most people. Plus it is nice to get the engine break-in taken care of in the first 24 hours.
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    Raptor in the snow

    Someone said on here that Ford and BFG updated the tread pattern for these KO2s and they perform much better in the snow than the previous KO2s. (as well as less road noise) I don't have experience with past models and can only comment on how the Gen2's tires run in the Colorado snow, but I...
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    Raptor in the snow

    The Raptor with stock tires has been great in the Colorado high country. I use 4A on slippery mountain roads to avoid losing the back end and it works great because I don't have to think twice if I come across a dry switchback. I'm really impressed with the KO2s. Having come from a 4runner with...
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    Dealer Allocation Available?

    I bought my Raptor in Ohio last year for MSRP because it was one of the cheapest places in the country to buy one. Demand in the area isn't very strong for a $70k toy tuck and your build-to-order probably came from one of the dealer's existing allocations, not something he got above and beyond...
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    Dealer Allocation Available?

    A California member reported a local dealer that sells at MSRP has a two year wait list. That seems to refute your claim of guaranteed allocations for build to order.
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    Dealer Allocation Available?

    Over a 4 year production run, yes. In each model year, no. As any intelligent business would, Ford wants to spread production and sales across all the model years. It would be foolish and a poor allocation of resources to saturate the market in the early years and have few sales in the later...
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    Thoughts on 2017 Raptor Shudder?...still

    Careful when doing this, but when it is safe, drop the truck into neutral and see if the shutter disappears. If it is still present, that eliminates engine and transmission as sources. Probably a bent rim or axle or a lose hub. If it disappears, then it is transmission or engine related. As for...
  19. J

    7.0 Liter

    Engine blocks of any material are heavy. Small, cheap, and light cars use turbos because turbo engines are small, light, and cheap.
  20. J

    7.0 Liter

    Are you really suggesting Ford be more like Chrysler??? If Ford goes that route, I'll be thankful I got a 2017.
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    7.0 Liter

    Just wait for the shit-fit the V8 crowd has when Ford announces the G3 will come with a 1.5L V4 hybrid. Never mind that it has 550hp and a stupid amount of torque off the line, but V8 bla-bla-bla.....
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    Does Anyone actually buy a Raptor at MSRP?

    $4k in after tax savings is still a chunk of money for what amounts to 2 days of work driving it back. (government hasn't figured out a way to tax us on the money we save yet) Last spring I used RaptorFinder to identify a few dozen trucks that were built to my liking and then I called on...
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    GEN 2 Should order the front axle with TORSEN® Differential $500

    Not sure why you need to get so angry when other people disagree with you. I'm sure there are other forums where people street race their F-150s and they would love an LSD that is designed to work on dry pavement and operates at any speed. Unfortunately on these boards people are pretty happy...
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