Gen 3 - 21-22 Tuning options consolidated

[bspeed78]

I recently made the move from a Gen 2 to the Gen 3 and I've not found a consolidated view of Gen 3 (21-22) tuning options. I see that 23's are in hurry up and wait mode. Did I just search ineffectively or is there truly no consolidated view? The comparison I'm looking for would include:

• Is uninstalling and sending your PCM required
• Cost
• Estimated gains
• Review from real users
• Switching tune file capability and experience

Does this already exist? If not, let's start it in this thread

Cobb, SCT, HP Tuner, JB4, MPT, Goose, etc....

 

[FmaxTurboSi]

Yes there's tons of info already. Just requires you to sit and read.

what year is your truck?

23's don't have much tuning options available yet. If you have a 23, you might consider purchasing a 22 ecu.

The gen3 ecu's need to be sent to cobb to be unlocked.

Honestly, just talk to Goose. He'll lead the way.

 

[JD05]

The Pulsar XT from Holley / Superchips is a tuner. I have been running one for awhile. They cost around $600. I don't put a lot into dyno numbers but my truck ran about 350 stock HP and with the tuner it hit 440HP and 580 Torque.

Lots of good options out there but I personally would go with ZFGR if I wanted to go the ECM route.

 

[mikewills]

I’m also running the Pulsar XT on my 2023. Granted it’s not a Cobb tune, but it’s a piggy back that offers pedal commander-like features, as well as, some other cool features.

 

[maxr]

I've been looking at a variety of tuning options. In Montana, I am limited to 91 Octane .. no 93 or e85. Ford also specifically restricts/warns about octane boosters using MMT

From what I know about dyno-tuning, the ambient temp & humidity can have an impact on results as well as inconsistency of one dyno machine versus another so I think it is somewhat subjective to compare dyno results from different tuning options, especially the piggybacks like Hammer (who told me their "auto-Oct" yields more conservative gains then a specific octance map), JB4 (which has no Gen 3 graphs), VRTuning, PulsarXT/Superchips, etc

reading thru the JB4 support forum, I found Post# 823 & 824 which I think are insightful on one benefit of the JB4. https://www.jb4tech.com/forum/model...n/ford-f150-raptor-and-ecoboost/20162-/page17

still undecided

 

[bspeed78]

Thanks for the info!!! I have a CPOd 21. The idea of sending off the ECU is not thrilling but maybe an idea I need to accept. Any other input out there? Anyone running MPT via SCT tuner device?

 

[FmaxTurboSi]

Thanks for the info!!! I have a CPOd 21. The idea of sending off the ECU is not thrilling but maybe an idea I need to accept. Any other input out there? Anyone running MPT via SCT tuner device?

Cobb sends you a box to overnight the ecu to them, then they overnight it back to you. Its super simple. Just in case you needed some reassurance. I had my ecu back by 10am, reinstalled and drove it to work.

 

[Johnny@Apollo-Optics]

Thanks for the info!!! I have a CPOd 21. The idea of sending off the ECU is not thrilling but maybe an idea I need to accept. Any other input out there? Anyone running MPT via SCT tuner device?

At Apollo Optics we have a tuning option that does not require sending off your ECU/PCM thats done great. Theres another thread in this forum about it or you can private message me and I can walk you through it

 

[MidLifeRaptor]

I've been looking at a variety of tuning options. In Montana, I am limited to 91 Octane .. no 93 or e85. Ford also specifically restricts/warns about octane boosters using MMT

From what I know about dyno-tuning, the ambient temp & humidity can have an impact on results as well as inconsistency of one dyno machine versus another so I think it is somewhat subjective to compare dyno results from different tuning options, especially the piggybacks like Hammer (who told me their "auto-Oct" yields more conservative gains then a specific octance map), JB4 (which has no Gen 3 graphs), VRTuning, PulsarXT/Superchips, etc

reading thru the JB4 support forum, I found Post# 823 & 824 which I think are insightful on one benefit of the JB4. https://www.jb4tech.com/forum/model...n/ford-f150-raptor-and-ecoboost/20162-/page17

still undecided

Just correcting the bad info in this post - Hammer isn’t a piggyback it is an actual flash calibration that is uploaded to your ECU. Once you flash the calibration you disconnect. No ECU removal required, which sold me. Highly recommend it