wtb a couple of guns

[Hocker52]

It was just a figure of speech. Point being is compared to a handgun if you woken up in the middle of the night and walk throughout your house in the near dark you have a significantly better chance hitting the bad guy with a short barrel 12 gauge with buck shot vs and single shot from a handgun.

Dave

You are correct. This is why I have either my rem. 870 PMAX or my FNH SLP 12ga. near my bed. These are both police shotguns and have 18in. barrels. The 00 buck opens up at about 6-7 ft its a little bigger than a softball.

 

[Dkyacht]

You are correct. This is why I have either my rem. 870 PMAX or my FNH SLP 12ga. near my bed. These are both police shotguns and have 18in. barrels. The 00 buck opens up at about 6-7 ft its a little bigger than a softball.

That being said I'd still prefer the dog to handle things 1st! If some low life breaks into my house a bullet is to easy of a punishment! The business end of my shepherd is a much more suitable punishment in my opinion. Like I mentioned before the 1 guy that didn't get away ended up with over 400 stitches, lost use of 4 fingers from nerve damage, and is now scarred for life in more than 1 way!

Dave

 

[Boss Hoss]

I agree about the dogs to a certain point.... Unless they are trained correctly and very few can afford that type of training I can disable your dogs in less than a minute or two. Most of the street thugs are not up to speed on how to do this but just know that it is very easy to do with a outside dog….

This dogs commands were all in German (Schutzhund 3 trained in Germany) got him from a friend who worked with me and his son was a dog trainer who had just come back from Germany (US Army) where he had been deployed and had 3 dogs in a small apartment. He would tear through my mother’s house when he heard my voice lol and scratch her wood floors BUT would not accept food from me (even put a burger in his food bowl when I was cooking and forgot about it—still there after we ate) without giving him his food word. He even had a tattoo in his ear to identify him---Ninja Man(name because he made no noice or barked when given the Pass Auf command) is gone now and the pic of me is a few years old lol but this was 135lbs of protection.

 

[Hocker52]

Most people dont know but Rotts are one of the smartest breeds of dogs

 

[dmarriott]

These days everyone should spend some time thinking about home protection.

1. don't become a target. Well light property - doors locked - garage closed - stuff out of sight - dogs with locked gate and high fences and don't keep a regular schedule of being home. If their casing your home they'll watch to see when your around and how long your gone. Stop by home if you can randomly.

2. get a gun to protect yourself & family. Get yourself & wife training and be safe, shotguns are good around house and racking a round into chamber will send most criminal’s running but keeping a loaded shotgun by night stand has a few draw backs. I have a safe in my bed room for keeping locked up and out of reach of children but I always keep pistol on night stand while in bed. There is no way anyone could be woken from sleep unlock safe and be ready if home invasions happening.

3. Always be aware of your surroundings. At home or out and bout. I have a CCW here in California as last resort but always looking to avoid bad guys or but myself and family in harms way. I trained MMA for 7 years stay i good shape and carry a pistol 80%. Criminals 99% of the time look for easiest target.

 

[blockdoc]

1. don't become a target. Well light property - doors locked - garage closed - stuff out of sight - dogs with locked gate and high fences and don't keep a regular schedule of being home. If their casing your home they'll watch to see when your around and how long your gone. Stop by home if you can randomly.

I agree completely about not being a target. I live out of the city, and my house isn't visible from the road. I disagree with the well-lit part. I know this property - thugs would not. I can get around here very well in the dark - darkness would work to my advantage, and a thug's disadvantage. Light provides a false sense of security. One of the first things I did when I moved here was to remove the light pole near the house the old owner was paying $10 a month for. (not just for that reason - I moved here to get away from street lights, not have my own personal one)

2. get a gun to protect yourself & family. Get yourself & wife training and be

The importance of this can't be overstated. People will spend several hundred dollars on things like lasers, optics, weapon-mounted lights (which are fine & which I use), but you know the best accessory you could ever get for your weapon? A well trained shooter! There are plenty of quality commercial instructors out there. Check with the NRA for some, or go to a course. I'm an NRA instructor, and hopefully soon I'll attend a course from Firearm Training Courses - Handgun ( Glock, etc.), Shotgun, Rifle, (Sub) Machine Gun - from FrontSight.com A friend went there with his wife & very highly recommended it to me.

a few draw backs. I have a safe in my bed room for keeping locked up and out of reach of children but I always keep pistol on night stand while in bed. There is no way anyone could be woken from sleep unlock safe and be ready if home invasions happening.

You can with one of these
V-Line Shotgun Case 3842-SA - The Safe Place

I have an insulated safe for storage, which is separate from lock boxes for accessible weapons. I have a couple handguns in a pistol box like above, and the shotgun in the wall box. I can open that simplex lock in total darkness in 1 second. But my kid (or her friends, or a repairman, etc) can not get to my loaded weapons.

3. Always be aware of your surroundings. At home or out and bout. I have a CCW here in California as last resort but always looking to avoid bad guys or but myself and family in harms way. I trained MMA for 7 years stay i good shape and carry a pistol 80%. Criminals 99% of the time look for easiest target.

Agreed. I was president of a college judo team for a couple years, and I'm a certified judo coach. And I will avoid a fight more than you can imagine. If I smell danger, I'm gone. Good martial artists typically appreciate this point.

Criminals are like animals - they want the easy meal & don't want something that is going to fight back. They can see if you're aware of your surroundings, and if so, they typically pick somebody else.

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This dogs commands were all in German (Schutzhund 3 trained in Germany) got him from a friend who worked with me and his son was a dog trainer who had just come back from Germany

Das geht bis jemand wie ich Deutsch reden kann.

Es gibt hier aber wenige Deutsche redene Kriminellen. Spanisch ist etwas anders...

 

[ofcbarbrady]

You can borrow her for a few nights........nothing like seeing that titanium tooth shining in the moon light!!

or for close encounters..............

 

[Boss Hoss]

These days everyone should spend some time thinking about home protection.

shotguns are good around house and racking a round into chamber will send most criminal’s running

You make some really good points but this is not one that is advised in the real world. Only in Hollywood..... Let's a possibly drugged up person know that you are armed and where you are. May even escalate the situation or the round does not chamber correctly nothing good can happen. The only sound they will hear (maybe) is the sound of the safety clicking off on my 1911. The shotgun at night is esp in a dark house is not for me—shot them enough at night to realize that the muzzle flash makes them a poor option for me.

 

[Jerryballs]

Noah,

I too have a ton of experience with firearms. Protecting your family is of very important, and while we have our differences, I must admit that helping protect your family is more important to me.

Please get a gun and get training ASAP Michael Lamb (stoic ventures) is a world renowned trainer and lives right here is santa cruz and teaches at markleys and at metcalf range in san jose. I encourage both you and your wife to go together and and let him school you in the work of personal defense firearms. Shooting guns are fun and involving your wife might make her more open to the idea.

There are legal and ethical issues with defending your own home and unfortunately we must consider these things while criminals never think twice about endangering our families.

Buy a glock or revolver or shotgun...whatever it is learn to use it and become comfortable with function under stress. Those subhumans who threaten us have no concern to be trained...We need the upper hand...Get good training, get a plan for you and your family.

 

[Bluoval1118]

Don't you love Texas? Lol I love the fact I can buy guns. Handguns or anything from a friend and not have to do any registration or paper work

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LOL, I love the gun laws in Texas. I recently purchased a Sig .45 in AZ where I am stationed and it only took 45 minutes for everything for me to be walking out the door with my new 1911. A gun is a good investment. I bought my mother a Glock .45 for her birthday this year and she loves it. A few weeks after her birthday she heard someone trying to break into the garage. She didn't hesitate to grab her pistol.