WTB 2nd gen, what do I need to know?

[CleverGirl_]

Kinda irrelevant. He's buying it for practical reasons.

Ill take my banter with @Nex elsewhere.

 

[GordoJay]

Ill take my banter with @Nex elsewhere.
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LOL Get a room.

 

[smurfslayer]

I currently have a 2018 tacoma TRD OR 4x4 fully built for overlanding. But have 2 dogs and baby #2 on the way. My parents have a gen 1 raptor and I’ve always loved it. Originally wanted to get into a tundra but after looking at pricing, I figured why not get a used gen 2 raptor that’s already built for the dirt and trails,and save myself the trouble!

TRD.... or prius? :-D Welcome to FRF. IDK... @Nex, with this vehicle history, and admittedly previously wanted a tundra, do we permit that?

Don’t most tundra owners want to get out of a tundra? Asking for a friend.

Also coming from a Toyota, reliability is a big deal to me. What can I expect out of a 2nd gen raptor reliability wise?

THIS question...

simply cries out for @FordTechOne to address.

The Jen Too is a competent off roader you can campaign on the highways for vacation Duty and a lot in between. It will take you to Baja and back, and despite online protests by people of walmart youtube the truck is extremely difficult to “over drive”.


“Austin to El Paso on one tank of gas”

Vehicle history trumps everything else. if you are looking at a private sale truck from an owner with all maintenance records, oil changed routinely well before the 10k limit (for driving Ms. Daisy use), this will insulate you from many concerns.
- a cold soak start, more than 12 hours from last shutdown, listen for cam phaser rattle. Updated parts/programming should be in the maintenance records. Most trucks have no trouble but it’s not unheard of.
- the shocks need rebuilt between 45-60k miles and they’re not cheap.
- most Raptors have the 2 panel moonroof. Pop it to vent FIRST, before moving the glass backward. If it’s loud when the pop to vent happens, it hasn’t been maintained and make sure you check function BEFORE taking delivery. A pricey shop fix, a bit of a time consuming and not quite as expensive DIY fix to replace the tracks.
early Raps ’17 through part of ’18 had a plastic oil pan. Again, most didn’t have problems but, when they leak, stealerships seem to have a REALLY difficult time following the replacement procedure. Metal oil pan is preferable. That said, my ’17 has the plastic one and <knock wood> has not leaked.

I have had exactly one part failure in 6 years / 52k-ish miles- right front axle seal, replaced via ESP.

One major flaw of the Raptor that you must look out for: Other, peasant vehicles will be boring after you acclimate to the Rap.
Most users don’t fully appreciate what the truck can accomplish off road. I’ve only touched the surface myself.

 

[Nex]

@Nex, with this vehicle history, and admittedly previously wanted a tundra, do we permit that?

Don’t most tundra owners want to get out of a tundra? Asking for a friend.

 

[Sharpie69]

Yea the looks are hard to beat on the 2nd gen. I just see them too often, its like having a 4 runner now.

I have to agree with @Nex , 2nd gen are pretty sharp

 

[karlthetier1operator]

TRD.... or prius? :-D Welcome to FRF. IDK... @Nex, with this vehicle history, and admittedly previously wanted a tundra, do we permit that?

Don’t most tundra owners want to get out of a tundra? Asking for a friend.


THIS question...

simply cries out for @FordTechOne to address.

The Jen Too is a competent off roader you can campaign on the highways for vacation Duty and a lot in between. It will take you to Baja and back, and despite online protests by people of walmart youtube the truck is extremely difficult to “over drive”.


“Austin to El Paso on one tank of gas”

Vehicle history trumps everything else. if you are looking at a private sale truck from an owner with all maintenance records, oil changed routinely well before the 10k limit (for driving Ms. Daisy use), this will insulate you from many concerns.
- a cold soak start, more than 12 hours from last shutdown, listen for cam phaser rattle. Updated parts/programming should be in the maintenance records. Most trucks have no trouble but it’s not unheard of.
- the shocks need rebuilt between 45-60k miles and they’re not cheap.
- most Raptors have the 2 panel moonroof. Pop it to vent FIRST, before moving the glass backward. If it’s loud when the pop to vent happens, it hasn’t been maintained and make sure you check function BEFORE taking delivery. A pricey shop fix, a bit of a time consuming and not quite as expensive DIY fix to replace the tracks.
early Raps ’17 through part of ’18 had a plastic oil pan. Again, most didn’t have problems but, when they leak, stealerships seem to have a REALLY difficult time following the replacement procedure. Metal oil pan is preferable. That said, my ’17 has the plastic one and <knock wood> has not leaked.

I have had exactly one part failure in 6 years / 52k-ish miles- right front axle seal, replaced via ESP.

One major flaw of the Raptor that you must look out for: Other, peasant vehicles will be boring after you acclimate to the Rap.
Most users don’t fully appreciate what the truck can accomplish off road. I’ve only touched the surface myself.

For what it’s worth, my first two trucks were f150s… I’m a ford man at heart and I’m TRYING to return to my roots!

Thank you for the pointers. From what I’ve read, the cams, sun roof, oil pan, shock maintenance have all been the common answers to what needs maintenance.

 

[smurfslayer]

Still holding out for @FordTechOne commentary on... comparison reliability to ... Toy. pretty sure he will find new and inventive ways to make incisive points and cause many LOLz

 

[MarkM98]

Let’s just say that I hate riding in my wife’s Tacoma TRD OR. My 2019 Raptor is the best hands down all day everyday! With saying that, before I found my Raptor I searched and test drove a lot of Gen 2’s and a Few Gen 3‘s. Reading a lot of posts here on FRF helped me to know what to look for and the right questions to ask.

 

[CleverGirl_]

I have to agree with @Nex , 2nd gen are pretty sharp

I said they were sharp, but common

 

[Badgertits]

I said they were sharp, but common

Well, considering they’re based on the best selling vehicle in the country…..

Anyhow- get a 2019.5 or 2020 gen2 if possible- All the kinks worked out, better equipment included in the packages etc

Personally was always a GM truck guy, but between my 2018 that got
Totaled by a distracted broad on her phone & my 2020 have 100k miles total between the 2 & both were/are 100% trouble free

I wouldn’t buy a new tundra- give it a few more years