VisionX light cannon Vs Rigid Industries Hyperspot Vs Baja Designs Racer edition
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So... I saw one of your other threads from the end of September and it looks like you switched your onx6+ bar to both driving lenses so I decided to do as much digging as I could. If that's the case, along with having 4* 4.7 cg2 multi LED lights, I think your near and mid-field is plenty covered so I think it might be a waste to pay for the IPT although i know the IPT is awesome.
A pair of 6.7 ADV lights shine 2494' at 1 lux. 1 6.7 single LED shines 3000' at 1 lux and a pair ups that to 3300' at 1 lux. BD XL pro spot shines ~1250' at 1 lux, so extrapolating, the XL racer edition will shine approx 1750' at lux (BD says 40% further than the XL pro spot). I don't think that the LP4 will outshine the XL racer in distance at 1 lux.
I saw another thread here where a guy had xl80's in driving combo and switched them to spot lenses and didn't gain any distance, just brighter. I can't imagine an LP4 will shine much farther if at all than an xl80. As much as I love BD I think you will get more distance with one of the vision x offerings if that's what you are after. Not trying to make your decision more complicated though, I think you'll be happy whichever way you go. Per watt though the single LED light cannon will give you the most distance except for the 4.7".
A pair of 6.7 ADV lights shine 2494' at 1 lux. 1 6.7 single LED shines 3000' at 1 lux and a pair ups that to 3300' at 1 lux. BD XL pro spot shines ~1250' at 1 lux, so extrapolating, the XL racer edition will shine approx 1750' at lux (BD says 40% further than the XL pro spot). I don't think that the LP4 will outshine the XL racer in distance at 1 lux.
I saw another thread here where a guy had xl80's in driving combo and switched them to spot lenses and didn't gain any distance, just brighter. I can't imagine an LP4 will shine much farther if at all than an xl80. As much as I love BD I think you will get more distance with one of the vision x offerings if that's what you are after. Not trying to make your decision more complicated though, I think you'll be happy whichever way you go. Per watt though the single LED light cannon will give you the most distance except for the 4.7".
Thanks for doing some research for me! And that response is much appreciated. I had never seen the BD Isolux plots before and I asked for that info not too long ago. Interesting stuff.
Honestly, I agree with every point you just laid out. The last few days of research brought me the same realization. My near/ mid field is totally covered! It’s perfect. I was debating just putting my combo lens back on my ONX+ and maybe some snap on filters on the cannons. Hold out for a future offering.
Buuuut, I have been significantly toying with the idea of the ADV. I truly believe they will out perform the LP4/LP6 for MY needs. And, I don’t think I will overly benefit from the IPT as you pointed out. And, the cost is cheaper. The ADV uses the CREE XPL High LED which has made its way into BD and KC lights to name a few.
I think the ADV is a no brainer. Mostly due to my current set up. Another route I was pondering was the KC Pro Carbon. It uses two 20w CREE LEDs. But even then, I think the ADV will dominate it.
I have actually been messaging VX back in forth the last few days. Talking about options and ideas with their products. Plus, my wife hands likes the look of the ADV the best from an exterior design point.
With the amount of money spent going from KC, too rigid, too multiple 25w/ CG2 cannons, VX light bars and now a BD light. It gets harder and harder to convince my wife of my “need for lighting.” But, I like it. It is my favorite mod. So, I have to make a strategic decision to hold me over. Which, presents my challenge.
I still have time to decide. The holiday sales are around the corner. Thanks for the needed need back.
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Honestly, I agree with every point you just laid out. The last few days of research brought me the same realization. My near/ mid field is totally covered! It’s perfect. I was debating just putting my combo lens back on my ONX+ and maybe some snap on filters on the cannons. Hold out for a future offering.
Buuuut, I have been significantly toying with the idea of the ADV. I truly believe they will out perform the LP4/LP6 for MY needs. And, I don’t think I will overly benefit from the IPT as you pointed out. And, the cost is cheaper. The ADV uses the CREE XPL High LED which has made its way into BD and KC lights to name a few.
I think the ADV is a no brainer. Mostly due to my current set up. Another route I was pondering was the KC Pro Carbon. It uses two 20w CREE LEDs. But even then, I think the ADV will dominate it.
I have actually been messaging VX back in forth the last few days. Talking about options and ideas with their products. Plus, my wife hands likes the look of the ADV the best from an exterior design point.
With the amount of money spent going from KC, too rigid, too multiple 25w/ CG2 cannons, VX light bars and now a BD light. It gets harder and harder to convince my wife of my “need for lighting.” But, I like it. It is my favorite mod. So, I have to make a strategic decision to hold me over. Which, presents my challenge.
I still have time to decide. The holiday sales are around the corner. Thanks for the needed need back.
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Ya, I've looked up the KC, Stedi, light force and ARB lights and I think that BD and vision x have better options. I think the ADV or single led cg2 light cannon will be your best bet. They are almost the same price per foot of light cast at 1 lux with the single LED 6.7 edging it out at $0.30 per foot and the ADV at $0.31 per foot. Odd way to compare the 2 lights I know. Lol.
I talk to them on FB messenger. I have used email in the past and the response has been prompt for me. I actually had some slight condensation in my XPR after a hot humid pismo beach trip. This light bar was three years old and looked like it was still brand new. They sent me a brand new one! After 1 email. Aaaand, the XPR they sent appeared slight brighter which led me to believe it had some upgraded tech. It was a pleasant experience.
I actually did get some info from them today. I asked if they where ok if I shared the photo they sent. They haven’t replied back. So, out out excitement, and since it was already revealed at SEMA....boom.....
ADV 8’7” Laser!! The price point is kinda outta my reach buuut, damn that thing look amazing!
I think just a regular pair of 6’7” will do me great.
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Oh man, that's a sweet looking light! I wonder if their laser chips are a 1.5° beam as well? The one thing that steers me away from any of the laser lighting is the 2000 hour life expectancy vs 50,000 hours to infinite (in theory) for LED's. Maybe vison x will have a different life expectancy than BD though.
Do you like your BD light bar better than the vision x XPR you had? Any difference in distance when you had your driving combo lenses on the BD? The BD onx6+ has 2 racer chips in each bank of 6 LED's.
Do you like your BD light bar better than the vision x XPR you had? Any difference in distance when you had your driving combo lenses on the BD? The BD onx6+ has 2 racer chips in each bank of 6 LED's.
That is a good point about the life expectancy. I wonder if there is anything that could be done after 2,000 hours or if the buyer is shit outta luck once the lasers go out. I like how VX is offering a laser light. Hopefully with competition we get some more innovation down the road. A better price point would be nice too.
I would say I like my BD more than my XPR hands down. The ONX+ is actually larger in just about every aspect. It’s hard to tell through photos, but, the ONX+ reflectors are noticeably larger. I would argue almost twice the size and much deeper. The LED’s are also much more potent and are higher watts draining more power. The fact I can easily switch the lens is cool too. With all that, you get a much more expensive light too. Definitely a give and take.
You get a larger designed light (reflectors, LED’s, etc) and it shows. The XPR however is no kid light. It is a light I enjoyed very much. It was my first light and got me hooked on LED lighting.
I did notice a big difference between the all wide cornering and combo lens. With the wide Corning, you get every drop of light mid field. Their is not much of a spot at all and the pattern is much wider. Every ounce of terrain in front of you is covered in a blanket of smooth light.
With the combo, you get distance for sure. Great distance if you are able to angle the light onto the road. So, it needs to be mounted high enough to truly benefit. Aaand, the light is crystal clear. You don’t get this colored white hot spot you tend to get with the Rigid Hyperspot. Must be a testament to their “clear view” tech. Because, it is clear while maintaining a bright light.
I would say both lights are a great value. I think the ONX is priced appropriately as well as the XPR for what you get in the box. I would 100% buy a XPR over a Rigid Radiance hands down. And, the ONX over the XPR. I wouldn’t recommend the Radiance, but, the other two absolutely yes.
I have a multi year write up on my XPR if you are interested. It is worth the read.
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