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Installed the UPR dual valve at 500 miles. At 1k changed to full syn and had zero oil. At 5k oil change had about 1oz. I'm at 9800 and just checked it and had about 2 oz You'll get more as the engine breaks in and is perfectly normal. The catch cans aren't required but is a good peace of mind mod over the long haul. Anyone who thinks that preventing 2 oz or more of oily gunk from entering their intake is a bad thing...well...take their opinion for what it is. Also, Having a valve system makes sure you are collecting even under boost as opposed to the old single valve systems that weren't designed for turbo charged engines.