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Honestly I think we are both kind of saying the same thing, just looking at it from two different perspectives. I don't disagree IN the specific examples you're providing, but there are examples where you can have loaded options and still pull 8500lbs.I will also agree, if you need to bust out a calculator because you're running this close to the limit, have as much squat as in the photo and have concerns with overheating, you probably bought the wrong truck. My Gen 2 does great pulling an open trailer loaded with a SxS and ATV to the desert, which includes going up and over about mile high elevations. No power issues, no temp issues, no stopping issues, no excessive squat issues. An enclosed trailer is another ball game with significantly increased wind resistance.
Honestly I think we are both kind of saying the same thing, just looking at it from two different perspectives. I don't disagree IN the specific examples you're providing, but there are examples where you can have loaded options and still pull 8500lbs.
I will also agree, if you need to bust out a calculator because you're running this close to the limit, have as much squat as in the photo and have concerns with overheating, you probably bought the wrong truck. My Gen 2 does great pulling an open trailer loaded with a SxS and ATV to the desert, which includes going up and over about mile high elevations. No power issues, no temp issues, no stopping issues, no excessive squat issues. An enclosed trailer is another ball game with significantly increased wind resistance.