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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ovrlnd" data-source="post: 1217599" data-attributes="member: 19712">Just did three weeks in the southwest with timbrens and a 6000 lb trailer attached.  Did a bit over 4000 miles.  It's a solid solution.  No sag, decent enough ride on pavement or gravel, and surprisingly well on rougher roads both with and without the trailer.  Our route went from the Guadalupes up to Cloudcroft, White Sands, Tuscon/Mt. Lemmon, then over to Ajo and Organ Pipe, then up to Sonoma/Red Rocks, then east to Canyon de Chelly, Santa Fe area and back home.  Did a bit of Camino del Diablo to scout about for a future trip.  The truck did great up and down grades, stable on the highway (65-70mph), ate up gravel roads like crazy, and even did perfectly fine with the timbrens on some mild rock crawling around Sonoma.The worst of it was on paved indian roads at 50+ mph - those roads have big dips and bumps that you can't see until you're on top of them and hitting them at speed hurts with the trailer attached.  We only had one road where we turned back, and that was a rocky dirt single track with a ton of ruts headed down a mountain.  And we only shied away from it because there would have been no way to turn the trailer or back it out had the road gotten worse than the spots we could scout.  All in all, the timbrens are a fine solution.  Perhaps not perfect, but for the price they just can't be beat.</blockquote>