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<blockquote data-quote="m3dragon" data-source="post: 910649" data-attributes="member: 9079"><p>Zene,</p><p></p><p>You are the biggest voice for the new Gen 2 V6tt on this thread(s). So let me pose these questions to you as I like to see how far down the rabbit hole you have thought. These all assume you are not using it a as a pavement princess and will actually go offroad. If you are just a pavement princess owner, then don't bother answering.</p><p></p><p>1. Direct inject motor are well known for valves being gummed up in the 40-60K range or even less then 30k. Now through in dirt and grime of real offroad use by owners. Do you think ford would invest in something to keep things happy with that amount of owner neglect?</p><p></p><p>I personally think their market is the 95% which are pavement princesses not the maybe 5% offroader who uses it as advertised. Thus a basic filter and cleaning for air but oil blow by, umm not so much.</p><p></p><p>2. Durability of the turbos to withstand owner abuse. By this I mean not 1000 miles of use then complete tear down and inspection by race techs. Be realistic owners will drive it hard then never do any inspection or up keep on average. You might but the masses I am sure will see issues sooner than later.</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong, I would love a lighter, more fuel efficient raptor but the longevity of turbos in dirt, in owners hands I right now do not see. So long term repair and up keep will be far more than what a old dumb V8 would be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="m3dragon, post: 910649, member: 9079"] Zene, You are the biggest voice for the new Gen 2 V6tt on this thread(s). So let me pose these questions to you as I like to see how far down the rabbit hole you have thought. These all assume you are not using it a as a pavement princess and will actually go offroad. If you are just a pavement princess owner, then don't bother answering. 1. Direct inject motor are well known for valves being gummed up in the 40-60K range or even less then 30k. Now through in dirt and grime of real offroad use by owners. Do you think ford would invest in something to keep things happy with that amount of owner neglect? I personally think their market is the 95% which are pavement princesses not the maybe 5% offroader who uses it as advertised. Thus a basic filter and cleaning for air but oil blow by, umm not so much. 2. Durability of the turbos to withstand owner abuse. By this I mean not 1000 miles of use then complete tear down and inspection by race techs. Be realistic owners will drive it hard then never do any inspection or up keep on average. You might but the masses I am sure will see issues sooner than later. Don't get me wrong, I would love a lighter, more fuel efficient raptor but the longevity of turbos in dirt, in owners hands I right now do not see. So long term repair and up keep will be far more than what a old dumb V8 would be. [/QUOTE]
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