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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MultiStateRaptor Guy" data-source="post: 2050904" data-attributes="member: 67627">With either Livernois Motorsports in Michigan or MPT in Florida you can get you a minimum of 65 rear wheel horsepower confirmed by their respectful dynos:From "dead" stock 2022-2023 models (Raptor Eco-Boost V6) just adding their tune, both on site: Livernois Motorsports or MPT: remote programming. Spending $3500 on exhaust and downpipes, versus an intercooler, a tune and a trip to a dyno for a session to dial in the tune makes much more sense in spending $6K - $8500 which includes upgraded injectors, a new fuel delivery system and new Stage 4 turbos (and "yes" you get to keep your OEM turbos) if you move up to that $8500+ pricepoint. The reliabily is still there according to both Livernois Motorsports or the MPT tuners. I'm not hear to spend your money, but for me, downpipes and exhaust probably do add some cooling and clean up the clogs in your engine, but spending a few more $$'s to get that kind of "confirmed" rear wheel horsepower is a "no brainer" in my opinion.I'm looking forward to having my 2023 Raptor Eco-Boost V6 tweaked with either of these two tuners, I'm just waiting on the Stage 5 Turbo's to get out of their R&D department (later this year) and in to the hands of the retail public.</blockquote>

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