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<blockquote data-quote="EricM" data-source="post: 1995197" data-attributes="member: 20286"><p>I'm in the no oil pump gears, or full build camp.</p><p></p><p>Ford doesn't put billet oil pump gears in anything, or a billet housing- don't forget about that part.</p><p></p><p>Ford didn't put them in the Raptor R, the GT500s, 03/04 Cobras, Ford GTs, or F150 Lightnings either. The Lightings hit the scene in 1999. 25 years later, oil pumps gears are very rarely an issue in any of those engine when they fail. It's nearly always ring failure, scuffed cylinder walls, cracked cylinders/blocks, and valvetrain failure. It does happen, but it's not common by any means.</p><p></p><p>By the time you get in far enough to swap the oil pump gears in an engine, you might as well just go all out- pull the engine and add main studs, line hone it, install new bearings, install forged rods and pistons, upgrade the ring material (ductile iron) with hand fit/file gaps, drill the crank for a stud setup for the balancer, install aftermarket balancer, upgrade fuel system, upgrade the engine and transmission mounts, etc etc etc.</p><p></p><p>Where do you draw the line? Ford has overhead in the stock design and it's enough the take a typical 6-8 lbs of boost from a Whipple kit. I'd personally run the blower on the OEM stock bottom end. Throw some money at the fuel system and get a custom dyno tune to verify A/F before you beat on it. If the engine fails, I'd do a full build. The blower, by its location and configuration, would be protected from any failure of the engine and would always be easily swappable to a future built engine without issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EricM, post: 1995197, member: 20286"] I'm in the no oil pump gears, or full build camp. Ford doesn't put billet oil pump gears in anything, or a billet housing- don't forget about that part. Ford didn't put them in the Raptor R, the GT500s, 03/04 Cobras, Ford GTs, or F150 Lightnings either. The Lightings hit the scene in 1999. 25 years later, oil pumps gears are very rarely an issue in any of those engine when they fail. It's nearly always ring failure, scuffed cylinder walls, cracked cylinders/blocks, and valvetrain failure. It does happen, but it's not common by any means. By the time you get in far enough to swap the oil pump gears in an engine, you might as well just go all out- pull the engine and add main studs, line hone it, install new bearings, install forged rods and pistons, upgrade the ring material (ductile iron) with hand fit/file gaps, drill the crank for a stud setup for the balancer, install aftermarket balancer, upgrade fuel system, upgrade the engine and transmission mounts, etc etc etc. Where do you draw the line? Ford has overhead in the stock design and it's enough the take a typical 6-8 lbs of boost from a Whipple kit. I'd personally run the blower on the OEM stock bottom end. Throw some money at the fuel system and get a custom dyno tune to verify A/F before you beat on it. If the engine fails, I'd do a full build. The blower, by its location and configuration, would be protected from any failure of the engine and would always be easily swappable to a future built engine without issue. [/QUOTE]
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