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<blockquote data-quote="smurfslayer" data-source="post: 1995784" data-attributes="member: 21926"><p>There’s a very valid reason for a ‘scarlet letter’ title, and that is to keep a consumer from getting bilked. Even if the truck is fully warranted by Ford and the selling dealer, the warranty is not worth much if the truck spends most of its time getting repairs.</p><p></p><p>TBF, it is very easy to lose a lemon lawsuit for a simple broken hard part that is “on national back order”. The lemon law model legislation varies a bit by state but in general terms, 1 or more failures of a safety component or a few repairs to other components that ‘significantly impair the use and/or fair market value’ of the vehicle, generally incurring 30+ days of down time for repairs, excepting repairs where a loaner is provided. </p><p></p><p>If you were to break, say, a transfer case housing, you could easily incur a downtime of 45 days or more. OR, you could luck out and have it in 4 days, plus a day to swap it. Alternatively, the vehicle could have had a defective drive train component, for example resulting in something very hard to correctly diagnose like a rotational vibration. Or electrical gremlins. </p><p></p><p>These issues could show on an Oasis report, and possibly Carfax. </p><p></p><p>Note, that there is a very big difference between a truck that is voluntarily bought back by the manufacturer - Ford, in which they are not under any obligation to mark the title, and a lemon lawsuit loss or settlement which requires branding the title. The latter is pretty serious, even after filing suit, Ford would usually offer to settle out first, so to get the marked title, they had to EARN IT. </p><p></p><p>You would have to get reports and service records to make a sound judgment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smurfslayer, post: 1995784, member: 21926"] There’s a very valid reason for a ‘scarlet letter’ title, and that is to keep a consumer from getting bilked. Even if the truck is fully warranted by Ford and the selling dealer, the warranty is not worth much if the truck spends most of its time getting repairs. TBF, it is very easy to lose a lemon lawsuit for a simple broken hard part that is “on national back order”. The lemon law model legislation varies a bit by state but in general terms, 1 or more failures of a safety component or a few repairs to other components that ‘significantly impair the use and/or fair market value’ of the vehicle, generally incurring 30+ days of down time for repairs, excepting repairs where a loaner is provided. If you were to break, say, a transfer case housing, you could easily incur a downtime of 45 days or more. OR, you could luck out and have it in 4 days, plus a day to swap it. Alternatively, the vehicle could have had a defective drive train component, for example resulting in something very hard to correctly diagnose like a rotational vibration. Or electrical gremlins. These issues could show on an Oasis report, and possibly Carfax. Note, that there is a very big difference between a truck that is voluntarily bought back by the manufacturer - Ford, in which they are not under any obligation to mark the title, and a lemon lawsuit loss or settlement which requires branding the title. The latter is pretty serious, even after filing suit, Ford would usually offer to settle out first, so to get the marked title, they had to EARN IT. You would have to get reports and service records to make a sound judgment. [/QUOTE]
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