Own a 13/14 w/MFT Nav? Help needed please

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gwpfan

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I have been trying to work with Ford for almost a year on what I believe is a real problem they have with their Navigation, but I am at the point that I think others just are not aware and if they were we might be able to get somewhere.

Ford has a setting in the MFT system called Breadcrumbs. By default it is off. If you turn it on it is supposed to track where you have been for so many miles. Pretty cool feature, especially for off road use and just even finding your way back the way you came; however, it's a crap system for those of use running the 13/14 MFT system.

Background - I have a 12' F150 Lariat with Sync, the breadcrumbs in that work just as they should. They track your location no matter what for approximately the last 140 miles and overwrite the oldest data. I also did the Vegas Off Road Experience with a 10 and a 12 Raptor and the guys there specifically took the time to show me the Breadcrumb feature and were bragging about how well that worked for off road. I put it to use on my 12' F150 and love it, no need to add GPS for offroad NAV, as that works pretty well. It could be better, but to just help you get back out of the woods/desert to your original location it works great.

Fast Forward - I buy a 14' Raptor and find that my 12' Lariat has a better factory off road NAV than my 14' Raptor. Frustrating my 14' Raptor off road truck has less capabilities than my Lariat that's 2 yrs older!
Here's the problems with the 13/14 MFT - I know it's both since my wife has a 13' Platinum, so I've done tests on both my Raptor and her Platinum. With a 13/14 here's the issues:
1. If you turn on breadcrumbs it only tracks you as long as you leave the map screen up. Change screens you lose your track unless you take it back to the map screen. So have the map up and realize you want to adjust you heated/cooled seat/radio/climate/other and take it off the map screen and forget to put it back you just lost your track from that point on. Arrgghh! The old system didn't matter what screen was up, it just constantly tracked in the background if breadcrumbs were enabled.
2. The new system the breadcrumbs only tracks 50 miles. Doesn't the new system have more memory than the old? Why can't it track further? Even if #1 was fixed at least I'd get 50 miles but many times I drive off road more than 50 miles. The 140 miles on the earlier system's was a more appropriate setting IMO, else allow us the option to set what we want it to 50/140.

I've done master reset's, had it into the Ford dealer (the dealer seemed to really try to get a resolution, but said it was software they couldn't do anything about and even tested another truck on their lot to verify it wasn't just my truck) been speaking with one of the Ford online reps on the F150 forum, (I believe this was before they were here), and updated software. I was told this was escalated to their engineering team. I'll be honest, I am about to just buy a Lowrance/something, which I am sure it'll be better, but it's frustrating Ford took such a step backwards on this feature, especially for the Raptor.

Possibly some feedback here might get the help, but maybe no one really cares about this feature but me so in that Ford doesn't want to fix it for one guy complaining.
 
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I wasn't aware of the limitations of the breadcrumbs even though I do have mine enabled. If I recall my 11' did seem to retain them longer than my 14'. Good thing to know if you plan on utilizing the feature. Perhaps they can fix it in an Update but seriously doubt Ford will spend much development time on it.

I am in the market for a Lowrance GPS and plan on using that whenever I go off-road moving forward. Does all Lowrance GPS's offer breadcrumbs or something similar? I figure the trail would just be on the map and you would just use that too.

If it's a limit to the software that Ford controls, what help needed are you looking for?
 

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I wasn't aware of the limitations of the breadcrumbs even though I do have mine enabled. If I recall my 11' did seem to retain them longer than my 14'. Good thing to know if you plan on utilizing the feature. Perhaps they can fix it in an Update but seriously doubt Ford will spend much development time on it.

I am in the market for a Lowrance GPS and plan on using that whenever I go off-road moving forward. Does all Lowrance GPS's offer breadcrumbs or something similar? I figure the trail would just be on the map and you would just use that too.

If it's a limit to the software that Ford controls, what help needed are you looking for?


I think most, if not all, lowrance units do. All the ones on my boats have had the feature. Makes it real easy to troll the weediness and drag the same boulder fields.
 

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@gwpfan - Nice work on discovering that issue with the 13/14 MFT maps; unfortunately I don't think Ford management (probably not the software engineers' fault?) will try to release a fix/patch for this (even if a handful of folks complain - but I hope I'm wrong about that!). If more people complain it's possible they could try to release a fix for this.

This is very similar to the dilemma that occurred when people were upgrading the software on their MFT/SYNC (?) and the "Raptor splash screen" disappeared at start-up with the latest version/update. In a nutshell, it took someone in here (there's a thread for it on the msg board, run a search if you want) just a little bit of time to correct the code to fix the problem with Ford's update/code (apologize if some of my computer lingo is off).

Your best bet in the interim is to run an aftermarket GPS system that meets your needs until someone decides to crack the programming/release a fix for this issue... :(
 
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Thanks for the replies. Once Ford realized the issue they acted like they were going to fix it...my dealership even thought they were actually going to do something about it, then it changed.

All I am really looking for is some attention about it. I don't think many people know and with such Ford engineers figured it will just stay under the rug. I have a bunch of messages between me and various social media Ford reps....I've tried to be fair with them and not really push it, but this started in February and I got the impression the new Ford update would fix this, wrong.

When I first realized this happened I was off road and I damn near got lost, actually was lost for a bit but then found the correct road. I had turned on the breadcrumbs and changed the screen off the map. I may end up with a Lowrance/something but I can't even relay how frustrated I am on this...if I could pull my 12' sync and swap it with my 14' MFT I would in a heartbeat. Sure a couple of cooler graphic features for songs and such when using the bluetooth, but that's the best I can say for the newer MFT....
 
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