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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kraftei" data-source="post: 1377539" data-attributes="member: 30456">I never said that, my complaint was top end speed not off road abilities. I was expecting a little more out of  450 horsepower and 510 pound-feet of torque. I think people now a days get lost in the numbers, 450 hp is now considered slow. I grew up with 175 hp small blocks and 225 big blocks 4x4's. Sorry but if you don't have sht for passing power with 450 hp, something is not engineered right !</blockquote>