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I did everything over the phone on ‘18. I got them to MSRP on a new order but I ended up paying 1k over to get the exact truck I wanted that next week. (It was a dealer order truck..) Patience isn’t a virtue I have. They did throw in a bunch of oil changes after I ******* about paying over M


It took calling 5 or 6 dealerships to get the price down.


Utah averages about 5k over on the ask.


The only time to spoke face to face was while signing papers.



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