MPT Tune vs 5 Star

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My Ngauge comes in tomorrow, so I thinking I'll have my tune ready hopefully by the end of the week. Once installed I will give some feedback on what I think.
 

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Ok, now that we be up the PC advise. I will be installing 37s on my 18 next month. without a bunch of banter, what is the recomended tune for that application.

I added the 93PRX a 91 PRX and a 91 tow. Only one I have ran has been the 93PRX. I will say the transmission tune and it going through every gear is different then the skip shift from factory. Not that it’s bad, just different. It for sure will wake your truck up and you will be pleased.
 

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Ok, now that we be up the PC advise. I will be installing 37s on my 18 next month. without a bunch of banter, what is the recomended tune for that application.

I have been running the MPT 93 PRX with Toyo RT 37s for over a year on my 2018. The truck runs great and performs far better than it did with the stock tune and BFG 35s. It is also a lot faster than my 5-star tuned, AFE CAI and True Dual MagnaFlow, 2010 6.2L SCAB with 35s ever was. The tune is by far the best bang for your buck!

As evidence, I removed the tune a couple of weeks ago for the first time to take it into the dealer for the recalls. With everything else the same, (FullRace IC, SPD TAs, FlowMaster FlowFX muffler, 170-t-stat, and colder spark plugs) the truck drove noticeably slower and quieter (??) without the tune. Needless to say, I immediately put the tune back on when I got home that evening... ;)
 
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I got the ngague yesterday and just uploaded and sent my stock file to MPT. I went with 93x, 91x, and 93x Tow. I did request smoother shifts in normal mode, and a more linear throttle response. I cant wait for it to come it.
 

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I got the ngague yesterday and just uploaded and sent my stock file to MPT. I went with 93x, 91x, and 93x Tow. I did request smoother shifts in normal mode, and a more linear throttle response. I cant wait for it to come it.

You will be very happy, especially with the linear throttle. I just don't get why people like the "boosted" throttle, but lots of the poseurs do...
 

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I did mpt a while back. Made huge difference in the truck overall. I leave the ngague thing in my glove box. It's my daily driver most of the year, and on rainy days.
 

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I owned a 2017 Raptor with MPT tunes and I now have a 2019 with MPT tunes. The performance gains are extremely noticeable and they have fantastic customer service. I have asked for several revisions and each revision was very willingly provided without them ever making me feel bad for asking; great customer service!!!!!!! All that said, I just received three tunes from 5 Star, so I will provide my thoughts on them very soon. I am happy with what was achieved with my MPT tunes, but I am always striving for better, so I am anxious to start testing the latest 5 Star tunes.


I tried testing my 5 Star tunes last night (07_25_29), but something is seriously wrong with them; the truck struggled to get up to 50 MPH on the two that I tested. I sent them several data logs this morning and I have confirmation that they are currently working on the issue, so that is very promising. We all make mistakes, so hopefully it is something simple. I noticed from the logs that I was not getting any "Boost(psi)" and the “SPARK#1(Deg)” and “KNOCKR(Deg)” values are way off from logs created with stock settings. I will update with a more detailed comparison of 5 Star vs MPT when I get something that works.


I did get revised tunes from 5 Star on 07_26_19 so they at least tried to fix my issue immediately (that is very much appreciated), but unfortunately the revised tunes that they sent back were no better and it took 17.5 seconds for my truck to get up to 51 MPH with a pretty healthy push on the gas pedal (it wasn't pushed to the floor, but I was definitely asking the truck to get moving). A new data log was sent back this morning, so I am hopefully that I will get something that works today.


5 Star sent me a stock file last night (07/29/19) that works, so I should hopefully receive three working tunes tonight for testing. So far their customer service has been very good.


It is now 8/1 and 5 Star customer service remains very dedicated, but I still do not have a tune that works, or is even drivable. The truck feels like it is pulling a 5K lb trailer, shifts poorly, and would definitely lose a race by a long shot to a stock truck. Per the five or so logs that I sent them yesterday, they now feel like the truck is producing power and they need to fix something on the transmission side. I really hope they get something working soon because I am losing confidence. I would love to get a good workable tune from them, but if it doesn't happen soon, I hope they will agree to part ways amicably and just refund my money.


8/2 - Received an updated tune from 5 Star to test over the weekend. I finally have a tune that is drivable and much improved over what they previously sent, but it definitely isn't something that anybody would pay for. It feels very similar to stock, but it requires more pedal travel to accelerate. It may have marginally more power, but if it does, it isn't appreciable. I know that they have other 2019 Raptor tunes out there, so I am not sure if the issue is the individual working on my tunes, something specific to my truck, etc... Aside from different springs and bigger tires, my truck is stock.

8/9 - My tuner was out of the office, so I finally got a revised tune from them that went in the wrong direction. My wife's car was low on gas, so we ended up taking my truck to dinner with the latest tune installed which triggered my wife to say “What they heck is your truck doing”!!!! The truck is revving excessively high for what it is doing and lacks any performance. For example, my truck took well over 7 seconds on flat ground to accelerate from 0 to 28 MPH with the RPMs climbing from 656 up to 3418 RPMs. It then continued to hold anywhere from 2800 RPMs to 3429 RPMs to accelerate from 28 MPH to 51 MPH in an another 7.895 seconds. This is hardly a performance tune!!!! To date, I have exchanged 47 emails with them and sent 16 log files. Seems like we should be farther along than we are.

8/12 - I finally asked them for a refund. I can't speak for why we aren't making any progress, but it seems time to throw in the towel. I can't afford to spend any more time on this without any signs of improvement.

8/12 - They responded saying they will keep attempting to get the tunes right, or they will provide a refund of $59.95 out of the $259.95 I paid. This was very disappointing given the amount of time and patience I have had with the process. I am still pushing to get a full refund which seems completely fair at this point, but if not, I will let them them keep trying until I get something that can be driven. I once again give them credit for being responsive and not giving up, but this entire process is getting ridiculous.
 
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I did install my MPT tune (93x) Saturday and so far I have been very happy with it (although very limited driving time). The increase in power is very noticeable especially when I push the truck. I get more of the "snap your head back" feel than I did before when pushed in the Raptor. I am very happy that the normal driving dynamic has not changed that much, ie the throttle is not twitchy and the shifts in normal seem very smooth. Overall Normal mode feels just like before, just with more power available when I ask for it, which is exactly what I wanted. Sport mode really opens up the truck much more than before, but I only drove in Sport for about 10 mins so far so i don't want to judge it too much yet.

I'll drive a lot more this week including about an eight hour road trip on Thursday and I will come back and give more thoughts on it then. So far the results have been excellent.
 

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im thinking of upping the 91x to 93x

how many fill ups on 94 octane before i should load the new tune
 
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