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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Trick.Raptor" data-source="post: 864656" data-attributes="member: 16456">It seems expensive for what you get.  If your wallet is OK with it then it might be worthwhile.  My early experience in my teens came from "lessons learned stupidity" while off-roading in the Mojave Desert with various toys.  In the early 90's I was with several Jeep groups and learned even more from them which led to my working for the Camp Jeep and Jeep Jamboree events as an instructor for the Jeep noobs.Funny thing is that I have 25+ years experience but with the Raptor it is almost like having to learn things all over.  Short wheelbase on narrow trails with 4WD is far different than high-speed 2WD in the open desert.  It's one thing to know how to correct a skid vs. deliberately throwing your vehicle in to a skid!Look for some local off-road groups.  Some are vehicle specific but most are open and it doesn't matter what you run.  You don't want to join Red Rock 4-Wheelers and then head out for Poison Spider in Moab.  However Red Rock does have runs for stock vehicles and beginners.  Local groups are where you want to start.</blockquote>