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<blockquote data-quote="FordTechOne" data-source="post: 1409488" data-attributes="member: 35543"><p>Apparently you didn't read my previous post. The Tundra is an abomination. Feel free to revisit.</p><p></p><p>SVTTrooper is not "angry" at all. He is simply stating the truth, which is that Toyota owners in general are ignorant and blind to reality. That is the only way they can manage to sell a worst in class, unreliable, poorly engineered, unsafe vehicle on the open market in North America. Toyota loyalists buy into Toyota's propaganda that they are somehow "reliable" because of the badge on the grille. Apparently it helps them sleep at night. When the opposite proves to be true, these same Toyota loyalists become super defensive (you?) and claim that everyone is crazy except for themselves. Toyota is notorious for covering up their issues and getting away with paying off owners to keep quiet about defects. How do you think the 2011 Toyota unintended acceleration investigation came to be? They followed their Japanese culture to a tee...deny, deny, deny...pay off people...deny more...pretend that their was no knowledge of the defect...lie under oath...lose the lawsuit and pay the highest fine ($1 Billion) ever issued for an automotive defect in the Supreme court. Not simply due to the nature of the defect, but because they COVERED IT UP like they do with everything. Yet you TRUST this company and put your own name out to stand behind them?</p><p></p><p>Toyota sells products in North America for one reason...pure profit. That is why their North American plants are all based in the south with non-union labor earning minimum wage. They are here to make Tokyo rich...foolish and desperate Americans are simply the complacent enablers. BTW, before anyone makes any anti-Union comments, all of Toyota's Japanese plants are Union. Let that sink in for a minute.</p><p></p><p>You can "bet" all you want, but Toyota does not have less "problems on average" than any F-Series, Silverado, or RAM. As far as "customer satisfaction", what is your (legitimate) source? As I previously mentioned, the problems that the Tundras roll in with cost thousands of dollars - on average. The statistics from the most common sources are not broken down by the nature or cost of the problem...meaning that a phone pairing issue on an F-150 is weighed as heavily as a complete engine failure in a Tundra. Considering that Toyota hasn't even had bluetooth infotainment until the past couple model years (yet still worst in class) those numbers are extremely subjective. Add in that Ford sells 8 times more F-series per year than Toyota sells Tundras, and the data is even more speculative.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FordTechOne, post: 1409488, member: 35543"] Apparently you didn't read my previous post. The Tundra is an abomination. Feel free to revisit. SVTTrooper is not "angry" at all. He is simply stating the truth, which is that Toyota owners in general are ignorant and blind to reality. That is the only way they can manage to sell a worst in class, unreliable, poorly engineered, unsafe vehicle on the open market in North America. Toyota loyalists buy into Toyota's propaganda that they are somehow "reliable" because of the badge on the grille. Apparently it helps them sleep at night. When the opposite proves to be true, these same Toyota loyalists become super defensive (you?) and claim that everyone is crazy except for themselves. Toyota is notorious for covering up their issues and getting away with paying off owners to keep quiet about defects. How do you think the 2011 Toyota unintended acceleration investigation came to be? They followed their Japanese culture to a tee...deny, deny, deny...pay off people...deny more...pretend that their was no knowledge of the defect...lie under oath...lose the lawsuit and pay the highest fine ($1 Billion) ever issued for an automotive defect in the Supreme court. Not simply due to the nature of the defect, but because they COVERED IT UP like they do with everything. Yet you TRUST this company and put your own name out to stand behind them? Toyota sells products in North America for one reason...pure profit. That is why their North American plants are all based in the south with non-union labor earning minimum wage. They are here to make Tokyo rich...foolish and desperate Americans are simply the complacent enablers. BTW, before anyone makes any anti-Union comments, all of Toyota's Japanese plants are Union. Let that sink in for a minute. You can "bet" all you want, but Toyota does not have less "problems on average" than any F-Series, Silverado, or RAM. As far as "customer satisfaction", what is your (legitimate) source? As I previously mentioned, the problems that the Tundras roll in with cost thousands of dollars - on average. The statistics from the most common sources are not broken down by the nature or cost of the problem...meaning that a phone pairing issue on an F-150 is weighed as heavily as a complete engine failure in a Tundra. Considering that Toyota hasn't even had bluetooth infotainment until the past couple model years (yet still worst in class) those numbers are extremely subjective. Add in that Ford sells 8 times more F-series per year than Toyota sells Tundras, and the data is even more speculative. [/QUOTE]
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