GASOLINE OCTANE

[Nex]

Another towing thread!!!

 

[DFS]

Can always count on k9 for a fun thread.

 

[smurfslayer]

I laugh as you are so wrong... Pi goes on forever.

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Well, now... that absolutely, positively depends ....

hmm... We should explore the parameters of this premise.

I believe it will make it so the engine knock is undetectable to the human ear if lower octane gas is used, however the engine does knock. Also lower octane burns hotter than higher octane and over time a valve seal, valve cover…..something valve related will sustain heat damage. The damage may not show up for awhile, but if enough miles are on the truck, it will cause significant damage. He said if it occurs during warranty, the warranty repair will likely be denied. Be that as it may, I remember specifically that the guy from Ford Performance said all turbo’s require higher octane gas, which got my attention because I have been putting 87 in the Lariat.

I mean... I feel almost dirty for even giving this any serious attention, but, on the off chance that some n00b comes here and trips over this and actually buys into this.
Fer Fúck’s sake, do you seriously believe this alleged person is right. Actually, first, does this person really exist or did you just make it up?
You are seriously positing the idea that some lone individual purporting to work for Ford Performance, is actually saying something COMPLETELY contrary to the owner’s manual for the F150, the #1 selling vehicle in the Milky Way? You seriously think that Ford would risk the repetitional damage of such a grievous error?
Or, are you trolling?

No, seriously, not asking for a friend, are you just being a troll?
It’s ok if you’re yanking our chain, we’ve had lots of clown threads here, but most lack the deadpan seriousness so we really need to know. Again, n00bs might read this later on.
This section of the owner’s manual has been covered over and over and over.

Did someone say search? Not mentioning any names like @Nex...
The owner’s manual is pretty specific. You don’t seriously think the scores of thousands of yard work contractors are putting 91 in their work F150 Ecoboosts, do you?

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[K9 EXPERT]

I think you’re incorrect in saying most cops go into LE so they can eat. There are many higher paying jobs out there. Another misconception is cops don’t have an education, which I found couldn’t be further from the truth. Most cops I know have bachelor’s degrees. I would venture to say most go into LE for the adrenaline, camaraderie, and to make their communities a better place. If you feel like “helping people” was nothing more than a fraudulent theme to your interviews, it’s probably best that you got out.

I lived it for 32 years! I also have a BA, but I also make $170k, of which, 52% is tax free….in retirement. However when I became a cop, I did not know, or think about retirement. I taught at the police academy for over three years, I know very well about those that become cops. A reality check, I came out of the Marine Corps and there isn’t a real need for snipers in the real civilian world. Regardless of what recruitment posters stipulate, maybe pilots and a few other MOS’s will get someone a job on the outside, but few others will. Believe in the tooth fairy, good for you, I’m actually envious. Regardless, I started this thread for other people like me that don’t know crap about vehicles. Is the information I wrote true, I don’t know, but I personally believe it is accurate. BTW, there is no camaraderie in LE. Maybe in the 80’s and 90’s, yes the thin Blueline existed, but Rodney King changed everything. Adrenaline is on TV, pursuits and shootings are all the same, a cop becomes numb. I know cops now that refuse to stop anything but old white ladies…..out of survival. Lastly, when I first became a cop, it was exciting, but after my third shooting, it became a huge burden, after my fifth, it was a nightmare. TV is not real life and communities only get worse.

camaraderie

 

[Bullet Bob]

I lived it for 32 years! I also have a BA, but I also make $170k, of which, 52% is tax free….in retirement. However when I became a cop, I did not know, or think about retirement. I taught at the police academy for over three years, I know very well about those that become cops. A reality check, I came out of the Marine Corps and there isn’t a real need for snipers in the real civilian world. Regardless of what recruitment posters stipulate, maybe pilots and a few other MOS’s will get someone a job on the outside, but few others will. Believe in the tooth fairy, good for you, I’m actually envious. Regardless, I started this thread for other people like me that don’t know crap about vehicles. Is the information I wrote true, I don’t know, but I personally believe it is accurate. BTW, there is no camaraderie in LE. Maybe in the 80’s and 90’s, yes the thin Blueline existed, but Rodney King changed everything. Adrenaline is on TV, pursuits and shootings are all the same, a cop becomes numb. I know cops now that refuse to stop anything but old white ladies…..out of survival. Lastly, when I first became a cop, it was exciting, but after my third shooting, it became a huge burden, after my fifth, it was a nightmare. TV is not real life and communities only get worse.

They don't understand as they haven't lived it. I'm a disabled Trooper and the nightmares still happen, but not as much anymore. I'm sure you understand.

 

[ToadSmasher2K1]

Actually I understand it quite well. My issue was his insinuation that “most cops” go into police work so they can eat. I would argue that is incorrect.

BTW, there is still plenty of camaraderie in LE.

 

[HighwaySentinel]

BTW, there is still plenty of camaraderie in LE.

Agreed. We all have beat partners like K9 though.

 

[Tbogo]

Been running with 87 on both my previous 2020 and now 2021 for more than 30K miles and only use 91+ when towing. Have not melted any seals and never hear any knocking.

 

[K9 EXPERT]

They don't understand as they haven't lived it. I'm a disabled Trooper and the nightmares still happen, but not as much anymore. I'm sure you understand.

Thanks Bullet Bob, as you are probably well aware, nightmares are real to the person experiencing it, which is the reason 52% of my retirement income is tax free. The so called experts call it PTSD and I was in denial for many years. I’m venting, so please bare with me. Shootings are part of the job, telling people their kid was killed in a traffic accident is part of the job, seeing a friend whose head was blown off, is part of the job, moving decapitated bodies out of cars is part of the job, totally bogus citizen complaints is part of the job. However I never realized police administrators that never worked the trenches, but pass judgement of right or wrong, in an air conditioned office, was part of the job. I met Robert O’Neill and several other SOCOM warriors at an event hosted by a police survivor organization. I’m not into all the psycho mumbo jumbo, but I now believe PTSD is real. In a nut shell, combat warriors see and experience horrific stuff for short periods of time. Cops see and experience it over years, repeatedly. Getting back to your statement, I need a pill to sleep and I don't take aspirin, I understand! It is not TV where a cop shoots someone and is back on the street the next day. It is being read Miranda in an interrogation room where you were reading the rights to someone else the day before. It is getting called a liar in court. It is getting called a racist during a civil trial because you killed somebody who told you they were going to kill you. Thanks brother!

 

[K9 EXPERT]

Agreed. We all have beat partners like K9 though.

During briefing, a supervisor (Sergeant) addressed the night shift and after reading all the BOL stuff, he made a profound statement, which is absolutely true. Basically he said if two cops that are best friends are under investigation he would segregate both. He said he would tell the first cop, “you can save your job if you roll on cop #2. Immediately afterward the Sgt would exit the room. He said he would then tell cop #2 the same thing before exiting that room. Within a flash of an eye, both cops would meet him in the hallway and point at each other, saying “he did it.” The Sgt said, maybe neither were guilty, but they would do anything to save their job. True story and great Supervisor. That sir is camaraderie! Cops have families, homes and kids. I don’t expect anyone not a cop to understand. Your definition of camaraderie and mine are different!