From 18 to 20 Raptor 801a impressions

[GordoJay]

The nice thing about the factory Navigation is that it provides a reliable backup to cell phone nav apps, as it operates off of satellites instead of cellular data. There are still plenty of areas in this country where there is little to no cell service for hundreds of miles, especially out West. When I was traveling through Utah I had to rely more on my handheld GPS unit than my cell nav.

Offline maps work just fine on a phone. I use my GPS app when I'm out of cell range.

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

After driving my wife’s Colorado ZR2 and my brothers ZR1 and listening to the keys in the ignition jingle back and forth, I realized the value of a silent Push Start Button.

 

[GordoJay]

After driving my wife’s Colorado ZR2 and my brothers ZR1 and listening to the keys in the ignition jingle back and forth, I realized the value of a silent Push Start Button.

Wow. That sounds really valuable. LOL

 

[FordTechOne]

I'm making points that are valid for me. Tell me how you get the hood open for a jump start if your battery runs down. Now tell me how you do it if you're in remote Utah or Nevada with no cell coverage. Everyone I know who goes far afield has needed a jump at some point. It's easy to drain the battery when you're camping.

There is still a physical key blade; it’s inside the fob. On some of the earlier designs you had to disassemble the fob (split it in half) to get the key out, which was a poor design. The key slides out of the current fob with just the push of a button.

I’m sure there are manufacturers that don’t have a physical key in the fob and lack a key hole in the door. I wouldn’t be comfortable with that. Tesla and their unreliable entry systems come to mind; if your cell phone dies or the 12V battery is discharged, good luck getting into your car. Same with those stupid falcon doors that are nothing more than a novelty.

Get out of your truck with it running sometime. It gets all excited, doesn't it? So turn off the double honk. Now it's really easy to walk away without shutting it down. A friend of mine left his Toyota running all day once when I rode with him. Ooops.

You are right, a Toyota/Lexus will continue to run until it’s out of fuel if you walk away with the fob. I believe there were some instances of CO poisoning when people left their yoders running in the garage. Ford has an automatic engine shutdown timer, so after 15 or 30 mins it will turn itself off.

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

Wow. That sounds really valuable. LOL

“Value” is in the eye of the person cutting the check.

 

[2slo4u]

I kinda agree with him, actually. My wife's car has push button start and my truck doesn't. The push button start has it's disadvantages, too. I'd call it a wash for convenience. Ford gouges you for it, it's more stuff to break, and it's a security risk. I can always unlock the door to pop the hood with my old-school key, even if the battery fails. Given a choice, I will opt out, even if the price is the same.

Ummm....you still have a key to unlock the door. It’s in the key fob.


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[FordTechOne]

This is what I would call “technology for technology’s sake”, it’s cost prohibitive, unreliable and downright dangerous IMO. If you are in an accident and the 12V connection is severed, who is going to be in the frame of mind to disassemble the door panel to get out? What if the car catches fire, as all Tesla’s seem to do in an accident, and you can’t get out in time? If you’re unconscious, first responders can’t even open the door from the outside.

 

[TheTeej]

Not having to stick your hand in your pocket ever to get in and start it is a huge benefit. Especially considering it is conferred every single time for every user, vs 3 extremely rare occurrences that can be avoided for the lifetime of the vehicle with a little mental exercise. A tangible benefit or two that you realize a million times, however small, outweigh rare avoidable non lethal occurrences - especially those solved with the included key in the fob.

 

[2slo4u]

I'm making points that are valid for me. Tell me how you get the hood open for a jump start if your battery runs down. Now tell me how you do it if you're in remote Utah or Nevada with no cell coverage. Everyone I know who goes far afield has needed a jump at some point. It's easy to drain the battery when you're camping.

A couple of weeks ago I went to the local shopping center with my wife. In her car. I drove. I dropped her at the grocery and headed toward the other end of the center for kitty litter at the pet store. The car starts beeping at me in alarm because the fob was in my wife's purse. I had a choice between parking by the pet store and making my wife walk an extra quarter mile and turning around, parking by the grocery, walking to the pet store, and carrying a 40lb bag of cat litter back. I opted for the workout because if Momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. Had the car an ignition key, there would have been no problem. And no, I'm not about to carry a fob for my wife's car around with me. I've got enough crap in my pockets as it is and I only drive it a couple times per month.

Get out of your truck with it running sometime. It gets all excited, doesn't it? So turn off the double honk. Now it's really easy to walk away without shutting it down. A friend of mine left his Toyota running all day once when I rode with him. Ooops.

So that's three. Your turn. Tell me something good about the button other than not having to stick your hand into your pocket a little more often.

1. Your key fob has a key. So if your stuck in the middle of the desert, you pull your key out of your key fob and open the door. I then put the key back into the key fob so I don’t lose it. I then pull the hood latch and I have the hood open

2. Sorry...this is lame. Just for the fact that you are driving your wife’s car. However, push button start is not all about you. I for one, appreciate that my wife no longer has to fumble in her purse for car keys. Especially at night or alone in parking lots where she might be uncomfortable.

3. Seriously? How many times has someone left their keys in the car running for the day.. this is not a problem with push button start, this is a problem with a users

Your comment about leaving a car running does remind me about my friend who bought one of the first Prius models for his wife. She kept complaining about the engine shutting off when she stopped at lights....I still laugh about that

 

[Kashoggio]

Love when people say “ just more things for to break” as they buy a high performance vehicle ....