GEN 2 disfigured leaves?

[SilverBolt]

Silverbolt - I actually had some violent wheel hop once about a month ago.

About 4 or 5 violent wheel hops while in soft sand.

That will definitely deform the springs.

 

[hedonist222]

That will definitely deform the springs.

Can we attribute that to inferior weak leaf suspension slats ?
Or is it the nature of the beast? i.e: to have a plush offroad ride, you need softer leaves.

 

[SilverBolt]

Can we attribute that to inferior weak leaf suspension slats ?
Or is it the nature of the beast? i.e: to have a plush offroad ride, you need softer leaves.

Nature of the beast from the factory. Horsepower, 35" tires, and soft springs. Had the same issue on my Lightning. A couple of good launches where it hooked up and the leafs formed an "S" shape. Replaced the leafs and added traction bars and never had an issue again even running slicks on a prepped track.

 

[hedonist222]

Nature of the beast from the factory. Horsepower, 35" tires, and soft springs. Had the same issue on my Lightning. A couple of good launches where it hooked up and the leafs formed an "S" shape. Replaced the leafs and added traction bars and never had an issue again even running slicks on a prepped track.

Thanks, Silverbolt!

 

[Donmatteo]

It’s possible it can be wheel hope. If you’re in the sand a lot, it could be. The springs aren’t weak by definition, but more soft out of design. Weak would indicate a flaw. The raptor is a soft, long travel suspension by design.

wheel hop and over load or near overload would for sure have that sort of damage. I guess my questions would be...

if you only tow, the damage would be cause by towing the deformed springs are causing the wheel hop.

if you are on sand a lot and tow, the wheel hop would be the cause and the towing would add to the deformed springs.

either way, deaver +2, drop hitch and a realignment of your trailer load would fix it for sure. Knowing the tongue weight is critical for the raptor due to the spec’s. If it was a regular F150, guesstimates usually work.

 

[hedonist222]

It’s possible it can be wheel hope. If you’re in the sand a lot, it could be. The springs aren’t weak by definition, but more soft out of design. Weak would indicate a flaw. The raptor is a soft, long travel suspension by design.

wheel hop and over load or near overload would for sure have that sort of damage. I guess my questions would be...

if you only tow, the damage would be cause by towing the deformed springs are causing the wheel hop.

if you are on sand a lot and tow, the wheel hop would be the cause and the towing would add to the deformed springs.

either way, deaver +2, drop hitch and a realignment of your trailer load would fix it for sure. Knowing the tongue weight is critical for the raptor due to the spec’s. If it was a regular F150, guesstimates usually work.

I only had wheel hop on one instance in the desert and had no load in the truck bed - just my 60 lb kid (not in the truck bed)

Thanks for the tips - will get to a weighing station and check tongue weight

 

[Donmatteo]

I only had wheel hop on one instance in the desert and had no load in the truck bed - just my 60 lb kid (not in the truck bed)

Thanks for the tips - will get to a weighing station and check tongue weight

what mode and drive configuration were you in? That’s horrible wheel hop. Only knowing what you posted, I don’t believe that’s enough to cause damage like your pictures show. BUT, it depends on how much it happens and for how long.

For the moment, I am inclined to believe the wheel hop is a symptom of a suspension overload and not a cause.

 

[hedonist222]

what mode and drive configuration were you in? That’s horrible wheel hop. Only knowing what you posted, I don’t believe that’s enough to cause damage like your pictures show. BUT, it depends on how much it happens and for how long.

For the moment, I am inclined to believe the wheel hop is a symptom of a suspension overload and not a cause.

4H and standard mode

This clip wasn't the only bout of wheel-hop that day.

I'd say about 20 bouts of violent wheel hop that day.
But only that day.

I can see it being a symptom of overload because and not the cause as I trailered my side by side for about 1,200 miles (over many weekends) before this instance of wheel hop.

 

[Brett Rahn]

How does it F it up. 9 out of 10 owners don’t off-road them etc. you clowns just want to make your overpriced springs sound good.
And again I got this info from Deavers. That’s what they wanted to sell me for my application. Which was hey I need better bed capacity so I can tow a little better without Timbren. But again do what you feel makes you sleep

Wrong! I’m sure it rides great! Deavers are a progressive 11 spring pack and get progressively stiffer as they cycle through the travel. You paid $425 to **** up your truck and spent half of the cost of deavers.