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Message: <blockquote data-quote="catinthehat85" data-source="post: 2063646" data-attributes="member: 31053">For all the whiners complaining the 3.5 EB is dated and there are more powerful alternatives from other companies like Dodge available...when is somebody going to praise Ford for perfecting an almost decade old powertrain? These current engines are nearly bulletproof, moreso than even the older Toyota engines by the numbers, and we all know the cult following and marketing campaigns associated with that. The R's are riddled with reliability and overheating issues you'll never find someone posting about on social media. The 3.5 at this point is nearly the perfect motor pairing for the current gen raptors. Lightweight, no more longevity concerns, more torque down low than you'll never need in the dirt, incredible tuning potential, and reliable performance in the most extreme weather (so well designed to the point that you can stick massive lights in front of the radiator and almost still never have overheating issues). Rant over!</blockquote>