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I base my statements on personal experience.  I've inspected with my own eyeballs the CVF IC and while it appears to be fully functional without functional flaws, it is not made to the same skill and quality standards as at least two that you mentioned, Cobb and Mishimoto.  I have zero experience with Wagner, so I can't make a valid comment.


 The point is that facts are facts and stating them as such doesn't do a disservice to anyone.  They are FACTS.  You can twist the words around until you feel better about them, but nothing can change the facts as they are currently, OTHER than a change to the CVF processes.


If it "works" and people buy it, then it is a valid product.  I've never said anything about functionality, just the skill and workmanship applied.  It is looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, then it is pretty damn likely to be a duck.


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