Cam Phaser debacle

[Raptor Johns Creek]

My 2020 Raptor developed the cam phaser noise back in mid January. Not just at start up, but all the time. I called my local dealer, and made an appointment. They said they couldn't get me in till the end of February, but it was "ok to drive". So I kept driving it.

Took it in on Feb 25 and they did a completely useless ecm flash that did nothing and made the truck shift funky. They scheduled a new appointment for me to bring the truck in the following week to do what I thought would be the actual repair. I show up at 8:00am and the guy is like "why are you here? We don't have the parts." So he says it's going to be at least a month or two to get the parts. But "it's ok to drive it". So frigging annoying. So unlike me, I didn't raise hell, not sure why.

In the past couple of days the noise has gotten worse, way worse. The truck is idling rough (almost dies) and I can hear it pinging under throttle. Getting a bunch more error codes on the Ford App. Clearly it isn't safe to drive anymore. Any ideas what might have changed/happened? Pretty frustrating to have a 60k mile truck that is going to sit in the driveway because I can't get a part for a month or two.
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I had a 2017 Raptor and sold it because I developed a cam phaser issue which ultimately led to the whole engine being replaced at no charge. Traded it for a 2019, still has cam phaser issues. Not really bad though. Ford, you need to ge you s**t together!

 

[CANES1]

My 2020 Raptor developed the cam phaser noise back in mid January. Not just at start up, but all the time. I called my local dealer, and made an appointment. They said they couldn't get me in till the end of February, but it was "ok to drive". So I kept driving it.

Took it in on Feb 25 and they did a completely useless ecm flash that did nothing and made the truck shift funky. They scheduled a new appointment for me to bring the truck in the following week to do what I thought would be the actual repair. I show up at 8:00am and the guy is like "why are you here? We don't have the parts." So he says it's going to be at least a month or two to get the parts. But "it's ok to drive it". So frigging annoying. So unlike me, I didn't raise hell, not sure why.

In the past couple of days the noise has gotten worse, way worse. The truck is idling rough (almost dies) and I can hear it pinging under throttle. Getting a bunch more error codes on the Ford App. Clearly it isn't safe to drive anymore. Any ideas what might have changed/happened? Pretty frustrating to have a 60k mile truck that is going to sit in the driveway because I can't get a part for a month or two.
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I have the same problems with my 18 and they told me it’s the fuel pressure regulator. Taking it Tuesday to get it replaced.

 

[I loved drone]

My 2020 Raptor developed the cam phaser noise back in mid January. Not just at start up, but all the time. I called my local dealer, and made an appointment. They said they couldn't get me in till the end of February, but it was "ok to drive". So I kept driving it.

Took it in on Feb 25 and they did a completely useless ecm flash that did nothing and made the truck shift funky. They scheduled a new appointment for me to bring the truck in the following week to do what I thought would be the actual repair. I show up at 8:00am and the guy is like "why are you here? We don't have the parts." So he says it's going to be at least a month or two to get the parts. But "it's ok to drive it". So frigging annoying. So unlike me, I didn't raise hell, not sure why.

In the past couple of days the noise has gotten worse, way worse. The truck is idling rough (almost dies) and I can hear it pinging under throttle. Getting a bunch more error codes on the Ford App. Clearly it isn't safe to drive anymore. Any ideas what might have changed/happened? Pretty frustrating to have a 60k mile truck that is going to sit in the driveway because I can't get a part for a month or two.
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[I loved drone]

That’s not a cam phaser issue. You are low on oil. The rattling you are hearing is no oil to the top of the motor. Not good. These things burn oil. A lot of oil. Mine burns about a quart every 1000 miles. Check the oil level just after start up. If it’s not in the grades area you are a quart low. If it’s not on the stick you are more that two quarts low. Ford has done a good job of covering up this issue. They claim that a quart every thousand miles is within normal usage? That a joke. These trucks will give you no indication of low oil until it’s too late. I know because I’m on my second motor and the new motor I installed has the same issue. You have to be diligent about about checking it. If you drive hard, use sport mode and downshift a lot, these are all factors in the oil consumption. The other thing I would recommend is to set your dash with the oil pressure gauge. Check the gauge at idol with the right amount of oil in it. It should be close to 10psi at idol. That will start to drop as you burn oil. Keep an eye on it. BTW the dealers know there is a oil consumption issue with The 3.5 HP. They will play dumb and do all there stupid software flashing blah, blah,blah. Try to find a good dealer that will own up to the issues hand help you out. Good luck

 

[metalwhiz]

That’s not a cam phaser issue. You are low on oil. The rattling you are hearing is no oil to the top of the motor. Not good. These things burn oil. A lot of oil. Mine burns about a quart every 1000 miles. Check the oil level just after start up. If it’s not in the grades area you are a quart low. If it’s not on the stick you are more that two quarts low. Ford has done a good job of covering up this issue. They claim that a quart every thousand miles is within normal usage? That a joke. These trucks will give you no indication of low oil until it’s too late. I know because I’m on my second motor and the new motor I installed has the same issue. You have to be diligent about about checking it. If you drive hard, use sport mode and downshift a lot, these are all factors in the oil consumption. The other thing I would recommend is to set your dash with the oil pressure gauge. Check the gauge at idol with the right amount of oil in it. It should be close to 10psi at idol. That will start to drop as you burn oil. Keep an eye on it. BTW the dealers know there is a oil consumption issue with The 3.5 HP. They will play dumb and do all there stupid software flashing blah, blah,blah. Try to find a good dealer that will own up to the issues hand help you out. Good luck

That's weird. I've never had to add a drop of oil in mine between 5k oil changes. Also have had cam phaser rattle for a while and really hasn't gotten any worse.

 

[CoronaRaptor]

Yea I figure once I get it in to them they are gonna end up keeping it...

Not if they need parts, you will get it back.

 

[NASSTY]

That's weird. I've never had to add a drop of oil in mine between 5k oil changes. Also have had cam phaser rattle for a while and really hasn't gotten any worse.

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I put 42K miles on my 2017 and it never used oil and 25K miles on my 2020 and it's never used oil.

 

[MRV99]

Not to hijack this thread but what is your favorite ice cream flavor…. While waiting for the cam phaser fix

 

[mprice1234]

Not to hijack this thread but what is your favorite ice cream flavor…. While waiting for the cam phaser fix

A scoop of chocolate mint and a scoop of coffee ice cream together is my favorite while sitting in my Gen 1 with no cam phaser issues!

 

[Badgertits]

I don’t get it thought 2020s didn’t have the issue, I have a July build 2020 (one of the last of the gen2 run) I was figuring this wouldn’t be an issue, right before my 2018 got totaled it had developed cam phaser rattle (40k miles) was hoping that wouldn’t be something I’d be concerned w/ on a 2020 oh well!

Don’t think either truck consumes oil but I’ll start checking more often