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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Reptar" data-source="post: 998713" data-attributes="member: 1883">The FRF peanut gallery is a level of enthusiasts that's beyond the stereotypical Raptor owner that buys the truck, and doesn't really feel the need to mod it, beyond a couple simple bolt on's if anything. Ford didn't gear the gen 2 to be the turn key offroad race truck that some FRF members may like to buy, but afterall, isn't half the fun of having a vehicle you're really into, the modding and wrenching and making it your own and improving upon it? They'll never be able to build 1 truck to appease everyone. They built one that meets the needs and wants of the majority of the potential raptor owner's market, and the rest can still wrench, tweak, upgrade as they see fit.  The gen 1 did have specific issues, and they did address a lot of them. Bent frame fiasco from people driving a factory offroad truck like a long travel trophy truck....the raptor no longer has the exact same frame as every other f150, it's an improved strength frame specifically for the Raptor. Offroading in various conditions but very limited selections in the truck.....the raptor now has more offroad programs so it's better suited right out of the factory in bone stock form for more conditions. The gen 1 was heavy....the new raptor is lighter and packing more power. The gen 1 was extremely ****** on gas.....the new 10 speed and start/stop will make it less ****** (not stellar, not a prius, but less ******, more money in your pocket for more mods). A frequent upgrade guys did was 3.0 shocks since the gen 1 had 2.5's.....the new raptor comes stock with 3.0's now. So tell me again how they addressed absolutely nothing out of the gen 1 to fix/improve upon for the gen 2? I know some aren't fans of how they made those changes with a V6, or a 10 speed, or start stop, etc., but it doesn't change the fact that they did address many of those things to improve upon the truck, whether you personally like those improvements or not. Yes some new changes may present new problems, but it's part of the risk, and that's why they're flogging and testing the truck. If they stayed so risk adverse all these years and afraid to make technological changes just because it may pose new problems, you'd never be driving a 400+ hp fuel injected mod motor with 6-10 gears and even forced induction. You'd still be driving a gas sucking underpowered **** of a pushrod motor with 3 gears and a temperamental ****** carb. Can't always be afraid of progress, it often brings more good than bad. "rosy" view......how about just a view? I do own a Gen 1 btw, and absolutely love the truck, I did buy one afterall. Just because I also like one generation of the truck, doesn't mean I need to be polar opposite on the other generation of the truck.</blockquote>

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