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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BigJ" data-source="post: 183487" data-attributes="member: 62">Sounds cool Dan.  I was heading down that road too for a while until, among other reasons, Tim introduced me to stand alone camping cots.  They set up and take down in seconds, they keep you off the ground, are ultra flexible, pack down to the size of a camp chair and can be as comfy as your bed at home.  Up until then Id only thought they were limited to designs like my Kamp Rite Tent Cot (big bulky heavy and not real comfy for a guy my size)I did some digging and landed on a combo that for me is really working. Heres the overview vid:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8M4gn1bvlkOne of those other reasons I mentioned earlier is how poorly my KampRite TentCot held up.   I know guys like Mark use one, but he uses one about half the size and weight of the one I used, which is about 1/5 the weight of the built in bed/RTT type solutions I checked into.  My TentCot literally shook itself apart under its own weight during the pounding of Raptor style running.  I seriously doubt an RTT / built in bed solution would fair much better over time.  No doubt YMMV. PS:  you're planning to upgrade the leafs if you go built in, right?</blockquote>