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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Owspeed" data-source="post: 1734785" data-attributes="member: 47313">Hello MRV,I understand what you’re saying. And I’m not trying to suggest to compare that the raptor on track or good fast road with good conditions is comparable to a sporty SUV or a sport sedan. But on tight mountain roads with horrible California potholed road conditions the raptor is truly comparable. Currently have an X5, M3 competition and my wife’s Porsche Macan S. At speeds anything over 80 miles an hour that feels like a track, for sure they have the advantage. I also compare to a good sport adventure bike versus a full sport/track bike. On mountain roads with debris, traffic and spotty surfaces conditions the difference is not great. At that point it’s all rider not the machine.CheersWilliam</blockquote>