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with a mini torch and a mirror they can get pretty darn close to the roof and still weld fully around. Just had a 10 point 8.50 cert cage put in my race truck and its hugging the roof extremely close.

As for no 5 point harness without a cage, if you've got the momentum to roll the truck you're not going to be able to sit there and make a conscious decision to lay down or tuck one way or another. And if you do think you will, and feel you'd have that lightning fast reflex to know how the truck is going to land and where to strategically tuck yourself, you could easily slap the quick release and the belt will pop right off, and you could even still wear your stock belt underneath if you feel you still want to be semi-restrained. The vehicles are built so the roof doesn't cave in and crush your heads counting on standard seatbelts to keep you strapped in an upright position.

I do agree you shouldn't just bolt a 5 point harness into random spots without a proper harness bar so the straps are positioned properly. Vendors for the Gen 2L's used to make harness bars for 5 points in trucks without a cage.