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    Are 2022 orders still being scheduled for production?

    I am assuming you have a '22 on order? I can't imagine this relating to '23s since scheduling hasn't begun yet...
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    Should I pull the trigger? 22 raptor

    You're definitely more likely to get an order at MSRP, but there aren't a lot of dealers selling stock units at MSRP. They definitely don't go for that here in Texas. I ordered one at MSRP, but it seems like the going price here in Texas is about $20k over. Some dealers sell at $10k over, and...
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    Gen 3 35 in avalanche request.

    Correct. The Carbonized Gray is exclusive to the R. Avalanche is available on all '23 Raptors.
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    Should I pull the trigger? 22 raptor

    Look, I am against paying ADM period, and I would not personally do it. However, everyone's circumstances can dictate different outcomes. $7k over is reasonable - more in the sense that it's not a grotesque abuse of your wallet or what I would consider to be price gouging. It's roughly 10% of...
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    raptor 37 graphics

    I understand where you are coming from, but there's no harm in seeing if they grow on you after you take delivery. I had a '21 (35") that came with graphics (stock order at a dealer that charged MSRP), and I left them on for about 6 weeks before making a final decision. I ended up removing...
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    2023 Order Speculation

    It's really tough to say when a '23 order will hit the ground. I do agree delivery of a recent or current day order of a '23 is somewhat of a crapshoot. There were a LOT of '22s delivered before others received their '21s. So even though there are a lot of 'leftover' '22s to build, they won't...
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    raptor 37 graphics

    Agreed. I wouldn't pay to add them, but it's simple enough to remove them later if I decide I do not want them.
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    Are 2022 orders still being scheduled for production?

    That's kind of a bummer, but the production dates did not get pushed back, so that is definitely good news!
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    Are 2022 orders still being scheduled for production?

    For some reason I thought last week was - I may have my dates wrong on the '22s though. The first date for scheduling of the '23s is supposed to be 8/18/22, so maybe that is why I thought there was no more scheduling for '22s...
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    Built but on chip hold now

    I hope for your sake that it comes sooner rather than later! I will be in the same boat at some point with my '23. I was very fortunate when I bought my '21. I found an incoming stock unit at a dealer who sold it to me for exactly MSRP. I only had to wait about 3 weeks for it to arrive. I...
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    What do you guys think?

    A used truck for $20k over the original MSRP isn't a good move... Hard pass on this truck. I am against paying over MSRP even for a new one, but if you had to choose, pay over MSRP for a new one. If you get a '22 or even wait for a '23, you're looking at trucks that are 1-2 years newer (in...
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    Built but on chip hold now

    This varies from a couple of weeks to a few months. There's no way to predict when it will be ready to ship since we don't know what the chip supply or replenishment looks like on Ford's end.
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    What do you guys think?

    Be patient and wait for the right deal on a new one. I know they don't make Leadfoot anymore, but a '23 in Avalanche would be a good substitute. Or, like you said, find a CO. Even if you had to pay $10k over MSRP for a new one, that is still a better deal than a preowned '21 that's well over...
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    2023 Order Banks Still Open?

    They can still place the order. I got my order confirmation (email) from Ford when I placed the order - don't recall which day though - either 7/19 or 7/20. I know that doesn't guarantee an allocation or anything related to delivery, but it does mean that Ford recognized receipt of the order...
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    2023 Order Banks Still Open?

    There's only one date for the order banks. It's possible they don't have an allocation, but the 2023 F150 order bank (including Raptor) opened on 7/18.
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    Radar detector mount

    I used a Blend Mount as well. It seems to be the best option. I wired mine to the AUX switches though - then I just just flipped the corresponding switch when I wanted the radar detector on or off.
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    BlueCruise Refund Info / Poll

    Nice! That gives me hope that I'll see my check soon. IIRC, I put my letter and supporting documentation in the mail mid-June - maybe the 17th or so...
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    Fewer 2023 Allocations?

    Agreed. See if you can find another dealer. I am assuming my dealer will have an allocation... They are a top 5 volume dealer in the nation basically every year - maybe for the last 20 anyway. I did not specifically ask about an allocation, but I was the first retail '23 order for them. If...
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    No BS dealership in Texas to order from

    Try Bill Utter in Denton. I was told by my salesman they would do an order at MSRP, but I didn’t end up using them for my order, though I have bought other vehicles from them (recently a Tremor and an Explorer ST) I ordered a 37pp from another large dealer in DFW because I have a contact there...
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    Raptor R allocation... I have a buyer willing to spend $15k to $20k ADM tops... feel free to DM me

    “Limited”, sure. Early estimates are that there will be almost 3000 Raptor Rs built for 2023. That’s far more than I anticipated, so I guess it really depends on your definition of limited. I don’t have the estimated production numbers for all of ‘23 in front of me at the moment, but I think...
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    2023 Order is in

    It’s a waiting game now. Even if you ordered the first ‘23 and your dealer had an allocation, you probably won’t get scheduled with a production date right away. Ford still has to balance out and resolve all the ‘22s that weren’t produced. You can always reach out to Ford Performance for...
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    2023 Order is in

    Both, technically. Those dates are for the DTP (Dearborn Truck Plant) which produces Raptors and F150s. The dates for the KC Plant are 9/15 and 10/31 for scheduling and production. The KC Plant produces F150s, but I do not believe they build any Raptors.
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    2023 Order is in

    Production is supposed to begin on 10/10. Scheduling begins on 8/18.
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    Raptor R allocation... I have a buyer willing to spend $15k to $20k ADM tops... feel free to DM me

    Agreed. I'd be happy to get one for $15k over, but I simply can't justify buying an R, nor do I have that burning desire anyway. You're also correct in your assessment that the whiners weren't buyers anyway. I'll be happy enough when my 37pp comes in for MSRP!
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    Raptor R allocation... I have a buyer willing to spend $15k to $20k ADM tops... feel free to DM me

    No worries - and I didn't mean to sound harsh, so my apologies as well. I was actually attempting to make the DIRECT correlation between the ZR1 and Raptor R. Supercharged V8s with nearly identical production numbers and MSRPs - both of which may be the swan song of their respective model...
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