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  1. jondle

    Which model is the better off-roader?

    Yes :) I'm mostly kidding. Your point is correct. 40s are better than 37s if a lot of conditions are met (power and torque to turn them, etc.), but not just because they are 40s. Trophy trucks run 40s, so I think that is as big as you get without diminished returns (assuming power, torque, and...
  2. jondle

    Which model is the better off-roader?

    Your claims and assumptions are correct, but the mistake in thought process is equating the package offerings from Ford with the actual tire size. The 37" tires are better for off-road. The 35 package from ford with 37" tires (which we now know fit) is better for off-road since you get the...
  3. jondle

    My gen3 vs trx comparison

    Where you are wrong is where it really matters and where your comparison has a glaring hole, off-road ability. If you actually use the truck in high speed desert situations, the R&D between the two will really come through. The Raptor needs a full roll cage and significantly better suspension...
  4. jondle

    16" Dirty Deeds installed today

    I'm 99% sure you can still get one because he has the jig still, but Keith seems to have stopped developing product for the Raptor world. The Gen1 stuff he built is easy for him to make more of. He was always really a Toyota guy. I'd call and leave him a voicemail. It's been about a year since I...
  5. jondle

    Would you Buy a 2022 Base Raptor....

    It has nothing to do with affording it and I probably agree with you in a road vehicle. The Raptor is a high speed off-road vehicle, so anyone buying the Raptor to use it for what it was made for, which seems to be becoming the minority around here, is just wasting money on most of those extra...
  6. jondle

    Radio Commutations

    Someone can correct any misinformation here, but my handheld does not relay through the truck radio. I use it out of the truck and it works great for the group in the immediate vicinity, but I can't really transmit beyond line of sight. I don't think analog relay works well in our use case...
  7. jondle

    Radio Commutations

    Do you have relay turned on? I didn't think relay worked very well unless everyone was on full digital signals. I'm pretty novice on the advanced features of the modern radios. Having your handheld relay through the truck radio would be a great configuration.
  8. jondle

    Radio Commutations

    I haven't seen a handheld with enough range to be useful for trucks once in motion. You can have a mile between trucks to keep out dust depending on conditions. I only use my handheld when out of the truck. I would wire for headsets or an external speaker while you are installing and if you...
  9. jondle

    Radio Commutations

    I'm not sure what bells and whistles there are except for audio-in. Basic functionality would need to include intercom and push-to-talk to transmit on VHF. I like music on when I drive, with headsets on you can't hear music through the cab, so audio-in is a must have feature for me. Are there...
  10. jondle

    Would you Buy a 2022 Base Raptor....

    Base is the only way I would order one. I would try to get the Torsen package so you can have the Torsen front diff, but that is the only option that makes the Raptor better. It shouldn't be a deal breaker, but a nice to have. 37s will fit on a truck ordered with 35s and you get full suspension...
  11. jondle

    Radio Commutations

    You definitely want VHF if you want to talk to other Raptors or participate in any group runs with EXO, TRR, etc. They all use Weatherman or BFG Pits for the most part. Most race radios are what you would want as they come pre-programmed with common channels. I hear great things about the Rugged...
  12. jondle

    Gen 1 ford raptor frame replacement

    Even more than what @CoronaRaptor said, I'm *mostly* confident the gen 1 frame is the same as the standard F-150 except it was widened in the rear to accommodate the 35" spare. I don't believe it was even beefed up. Maybe @FordTechOne can confirm 100%? I've been looking at picking up a salvage...
  13. jondle

    Forget about 37’s on a 35 truck , Who is going to be the first to stuff 39‘s on a 37 truck?

    At no point in owning my Raptor have I wanted fair gas mileage or a quiet ride. If I did, I wouldn't have bought a Raptor. A Ranger would be much better on the street if that's what you want. I don't get the short comment regarding tire size. It also isn't large items that you drive over. As...
  14. jondle

    Raptor in small accident, body shop or dealer?

    Any off-road shop should be able to help. Mine are Fiberwerx. I know Boatec are also popular. SVC would have both bumpers and glass: https://svcoffroad.com/collections/2017-ford-raptor-fiberglass-parts 2.5/2.5 is more typical and will accommodate most setups unless you are going long travel...
  15. jondle

    Raptor in small accident, body shop or dealer?

    A frame cut bumper cuts a couple inches off the frame horns and tapers them at a 45'ish degree angle. I don't see them as any less safe as you're replacing them with steel in the bumper. It gives a significantly better approach angle. I guess thinking about safety, you'd be replacing a more...
  16. jondle

    Raptor in small accident, body shop or dealer?

    I don't believe you. Teslas are self-driving so they couldn't possibly get into a wreck. I would take the opportunity to do some upgrades. Get the body shop to get you a frame-cut bumper and +4/+4 glass. Sure beats paying for it out of pocket and will probably save them money.
  17. jondle

    Painting skid plate

    Man, those stock bumpers and skid plates stick so far out; they just get smashed so easy. I wouldn't have wasted the time. I was on my third skid plate before I got smart and put a bumper and plate with a better approach angle. It does look really good though. I guess I would have used spray...
  18. jondle

    Rear Gen2 shocks on gen 1 stock rear end.

    Pure opinion, but if you off-road, you'd be better off with heavier springs and shocks that are not OEM, and if you don't off-road you're better off with Gen 1 shocks. I know A LOT more people that run a King 3.0 w/ Deavers than retro-fit the Gen2 shock; not that the masses are always right, but...
  19. jondle

    2021 Raptor Lift Kit

    You lose suspension travel when you do that. lol
  20. jondle

    Rear locker in 2h - possible to program in?

    I assume the G3 is the same, but in G2 there is a way to lock the rear end in 2x4. I have a G1, so don't quote me, but I believe you do the 5-second press to turn off AdvanceTrac, then Baja mode (which puts it in 4x4), then switch it to 2x4. The exact process eludes me since I've never done it...
  21. jondle

    Most expensive raptor ?!?

    I don't understand. This is far from the most expensive Raptor ever sold. Maybe the most expensive, completely stock, used Raptor. How many qualifiers needed to make this true? I'm so bummed I opened this thread. What a waste of time. I came here to see a completely built Raptor, something like...
  22. jondle

    FORD RAPTOR SVT Bed Decal ...HELP!!!!

    Pull off the graphics on the other side so they match. Problem solved for $0.
  23. jondle

    raptor vs. new tundra trd pro

    This thread has gone a little off the rails, but back to the OPs question I have a little real world, 2nd hand experience. I have a good friend that I regularly off-road with that has a 2016'ish Tundra that I've watched him build over the years, culminating in a >$30k+ Camburg long travel kit...
  24. jondle

    Dodge to discontinue V8 Hellcat (TRX), What does that mean for Raptor R?

    I believe a new battery can be had for roughly $5000 to $8000. I doubt you'll find a barn find that you end up putting less than that in really. Plus, I don't think barn finds are really a thing; I just mean I know it happens, but it has to be less than 1% of car purchases. @Xtinct the rest of...
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