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This one just showed up today at my local ford. They want 35k over. Makes me feel dirty.

You left lane camping?

Whoa.....+30k on a mustang! Raptors and now mustangs.....i sure hope this trend passes soon. Or better, the dealers lose their ability to sell new ford vehicles.

Perhaps. Or prohibitively expensive. But if it can be locked, it can be unlocked.

It really is a neat feature. The lights seem to gradually illuminate all around depending on vehicles ahead or coming towards….and even then you can see the lights illuminating stuff on the sides.

Point me to some dealers selling at sticker. I want one, and will plop a deposit tomorrow, but my experience has been opposite of the one or two people on this board claiming they paid sticker. I have searched all over MO and eastern OK. 20, 25, 30, 35 over. If you are only getting 7 or 8...

Name of dealer? I’m ready to buy at sticker. Local here (Corwin) wants 35k over. My fleet dealer (I have a dozen with him)….midway….wants 20k over.

Full of? Tell me how it is.

Not trying to be argumentative here. As i mentioned in another thread.....straight from my dealers mouth.....the R is meant to be a golden ticket vehicle that is awarded to performing dealers and meant for them (usually) to sell to VIP buyers. That seems 100% correct. Its convenient that you...

You are taking about a dealer that has sold you a million dollars worth of ford product.

Sticker AND 71k for a 21’……lol. Who is this magic dealer and what is your connection? You a fleet purchaser and buy 30 vehicles a year from him?

How does Livornois (sp) do it?

that’s correct…..but the actual power gains minus a tune and usually bigger snails is probably not there

Not until 23’ tunes are out Mr salesman….then game for sure.

I wonder if this 23’ security is substantially more robust than any other generation or model year? Or maybe the labor hours to crack are similar to other years.

Yo engine is capable of making more power than it does. People tween the computer to make it more powerful. Done.

What difference does it make? I don’t care who owns one. They can restrict who buys all they want……still has to originate with them. The limited allocations have already sealed the deal on these dang trucks. What I do care about is advertised msrp from ford being blown out of the water by...

From the outside looking in…..i don’t know if FORD AD’s are pissed that 3rd party folks were getting vehicles (like R’s) and immediately selling them for huge markup, and the AD’s doing it on front end is meant to discourage that…..OR… if they noticed the 3rd party dealers were doing that and...

It is the dealers. You getting an R for msrp…..yeah sure you are. Even if you buy 20 fords a year from that guy it is highly unlikely they will let it go at msrp. That market is non existent since ford never put these idiots in check. I could order 3 from my dealer, but they won’t get built...

Yes. It would clearly be a win for the consumer and Ford. The dealers and banks can get bent.

Yes we know. All that being said the dealers are, by extension, the factory.....since you cannot order direct. Something just doesn't sit right with them marking things up above the listed MSPR simply b/c they can. Suddenly their place in the market is not so evident. Now of course any third...

So do they produce the same results as any other gen3?

No doubt. Although I’m sure they will get it.

What’s the 23’ holdup? Sucks

Don’t you need to have a FMIC to get “stage 2” tuning…?