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    ADVICE NEEDED - Cancel Order and Buy Used?

    $2400 off for a used 6k miles 2017 doesn't sound like a very good deal to me. If it was still brand new it would be an alright deal I suppose, but with these being very attainable at sticker (or under) for a 2018 I'd say you are better off waiting.
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    GEN 2 17 and 18 Raptors under invoice. All brand new and a few colors to choice

    That is not originally what was said, but regardless I am glad to see more dealers that aren't drinking the Raptor Kool-Aid.
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    GEN 2 17 and 18 Raptors under invoice. All brand new and a few colors to choice

    His idea of a "smoking deal" is 1k off sticker for a 2017... :flipthebird: that.
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    NC property tax. Grrrrrr

    SC sales tax capped at $500 now for vehicles (they call it a fee, not a tax), but yearly property tax on a raptor is roughly $1600 for my county. Only goes down slightly each year. I'd rather get bent over up front than take it year after year, but this is also why I only keep a vehicle 11 months.
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    2018 Raptors under sticker

    I guess the majority of the buyers on FRF are different than the rest because I see most here not wanting the stickers, or at the very least not wanting to cough up 2K for them. I don't think any dealer will get "stuck" with the truck and lose money, but I think it is going to very quickly...
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    2018 Raptors under sticker

    Brings me back to my point about the stickers... Do most buyers really want to spend 2K on some stickers? Seems they would have an easier time selling their trucks if they ordered 802A SCREW without stickers. I won't even consider a truck with stickers as it kills the deal for me and I'd feel...
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    2018 Raptors under sticker

    He said he bought it, which would mean they honored it? It isn't unbelievable really... They are still making plenty of money at that price. On another note, wtf is up with all these dealers ordering the majority of the trucks with 2K worth of STICKERS?! To each their own, but to me even...
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    Nationwide 17/18 Raptor below MSRP, possible?

    Hmmm, I just spoke to MAS Ford Agent who told me "Further to your Chat earlier with my colleague Gordon, FoMoCo have closed the factory book for the 2018 Raptor." I am deploying here at the beginning of December to Qatar also and was interested in ordering while I am there, but he told me that...
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    Test Drive

    I test drove one at the local dealership last week. Unfortunately, it put me even more on the fence about the 2017. Maybe it was just the one I drove, but I wasn't super impressed with the 10 speed. It seemed clunky and was hunting for gears too much. I'd still buy one right now, but after...

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