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I don't know about you guys, but the black plastic on my mirrors was all scratched up from hitting bushes out in the desert. They certainly didn't seem very durable to me.

I'm guessing they haven't announced the hp numbers yet because they aren't currently where they want to be. Maybe they're at 450 and they're trying to get to 500+. So they're tweaking the engine, tuning, and doing whatever they can to get there.

belt line?

Gen 2 Mike Tyson: ACGeWm8dcu8

Wow, just did some reading on his past. I don't think you need a fire suit if you send your truck to him. You probably won't even get your truck back.

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Back in 2012, dealers here in Los Angeles were asking 5,000 above msrp. I drove to Redlands and got mine for $3000 below msrp. Driving 2 hours to save $8,000 = totally worth it.

I haven't voted because none of the answers really fit me. I don't love it and I don't hate it. If I still had my 700hp supercharged gen 1, I would not even consider gen 2. Over 500 hp makes it slightly better in my eyes, but not OMG I have to have it. I will definitely check it out, but...

That would be disappointing if it's only 430's.

Everyone knows 11 is better than 10.

He knew he was screwed! :ROFLJest:

BTW, sorry for hijacking this thread. yufengluo, I'm glad you got out of there when you did. It could have been much worse.

Your vehicle is not safe at any dealership. I took my truck to have it serviced at a dealership that has been highly recommended on this very forum. I won't say which one because I don't want to stir up trouble. I had a dash cam on it, and the techs were too stupid to notice or they just...

Hey guys, I just got home for work. I'll start getting some pics and answers to your questions.

It's time I got off my lazy ass and sold this stuff that's just sitting around. I've got quite a few things, so I'm going to list it all here. The shocks and bump stop have dirt on them. *Gasp* Yes, I took my truck offroad a few times. I will do my best to clean them, but don't expect...

So what is the difference between the stock shock and the "race shock"? And would that be a worthwhile upgrade to purchase?

So it'll burn to the ground?

Duct tape fixes everything.

Is the line on the bottom your before dyno? Looks like around 240.

Definitely seems low. I had 330 stock and 450 when my Whipple was first installed. With JDM tune, I was around 485. Roush should be around the same.

Chances are there's some loop hole they're taking advantage of. Either they are make no differentiation between gen 1 and gen 2, thus all gen 1 sales are considered. Or, the 36 months period they are talking about starts now, and they are factoring in future sales of the gen 2.

Who knows. That probably is part of the reason. Unless someone with inside knowledge makes a post here, or someone takes the shocks apart to see what's inside, we won't know. All they said was they installed "race optimized shocks." What the hell does that mean? I guess my whole point is...

Right, but you said they "made modifications to meet the class" That makes it sound like they had to modify the suspension just to be allowed in the race. If what you meant is that they made the modifications to the suspension to allow the truck the best possible chance of keeping up with...

Are you saying they put a bed cage with big ass shocks in the gen 1 because that was a class requirement? My guess as to why they changed the shocks for both gen 1 and gen 2 is because they didn't feel confident that the stock shocks were good enough.

No, I guess not. But what I'm saying is that neither truck was close to stock. It's too bad because it would be really cool to say that a stock truck plus some safety gear completed the race.