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I agree with various points here and will add my 2 cents. You mentioned that you got “inside” deal at MSRP, remember most of us are not on the inside track. When the Vette hits the dealers, those markups are just as real as the markups on Raptors. Your opening statement about insanity for...

@SCMike This looks really nice. I’m planning to do something similar, you mind me asking approx how much was this upgrade?

On my list earlier in this thread, the Alabama dealer notified me today he’s got allocations a couple for ordering 2022 35’s, must be 801a, . NO 37. ADM $2500. David is contact.

Of the over 50 dealers i spoke with, some had no idea when they would be allowed to order 2022, and others told me Yes we got some spots left. And the one that showed me a build sheet like @sf2360 showed above. and some other things in my conversation that gave me comfort, so I put a small...

no, 35's

Gang, Since i called all those dealers, i left my name in the queue on many of them , one of them just called today says they got White and Code Orange 2021 coming in, This one is in Kern County, CA If your local markup is $5k, everyone else is $10k. if your interested PM me I'll send you...

I got a couple of requests for info, So I'm going to transcribe my notes to an excel sheet and make it shared file link which I'll email to any of you requesting it. , Also about @JerseyMike comment, I hope build date is good and ETA after that is Feb/ March which I'm ok with , Some of other...

I just placed my money down 30 minutes ago for dealer ordered 2022. I called about 50+ dealers from east to west coast this past few weeks. I got their markups, allocations etc. A minority of them are at MSRP, or with very slight upcharge or fee like $600 doc fee or $1k paint protection. Which...

Now if I could only find a dealer in UT or close by with Raptor for sale, i can fly over do the course and drive home with new baby. Checked out the site, looks like it runs March to November. Any dealers out there with gen3 35's ???

Was driving by local Ford dealer and noticed these two Gen 3's sitting on the lot. Black and Lead Foot 37's . Of course huge ADM, but my posting question here is the dealer upgrades. They added 3 inch lift and these Rhino wheels and some other thing, forgot. Just remembered the additional...

Wonder if dealer basically got someone to buy at huge ADM, and "cancelled" your order but actually sold truck to someone else. Either way it's totally sh#$ty practice and not good karma.

Honeybadger, that just conjured a super funny video from the past. Here's video for those that don't know what I'm referring to: Coincidently, i had one of the first Macans, took delivery in 2014, on official 2015 car. It had button to turn auto start/stop, but i usually kept it off, just...

Excellent, Thank you all, that helps.

Didn't know about the 7500 mile thing, but I know if you bring in vehicle out of state you'll need to register and pay CA sales tax, they just want their money. They dont' give a crap where u buy, it can come from Russia. I had military friends with Oregon plates and they were able to get away...

The ADM markup is crazy, I'd be happy to pay $500, unfortunately I'm in CA, and average starting markup is about $15-$20k. I've been quoted 35k. I want new Raptor bad, but not crazy bad. Lot i can do with extra 10k +. Got talking to one and if I'm "serious" they could get manager to lower it...

Newbie question. I figure the start/stop was to be "eco friendly" or save gas, but really i don't it will matter much. I recall concerns like a decade or more ago when this feature started appearing in cars, about mechanical stress on the engine and drain on battery. I see pretty much...

That's encouraging news, i'll have to call and call. Plus I'm looking for 35 not the 37 perf package. I'm newbie shopping for 1st Raptor. Not going hardcore offroad, unless you count the crappy streets and potholes of LA light offroading :) Seriously, I do need to get up to mountains on...

One dealer told me ordering now would be for 2022 for May or later delivery. I'm on fence between ordering or trying to negotiate with some of dealers with the 2021 on hand. It's basically same car, or is there any difference in 2022?