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<blockquote data-quote="B E N" data-source="post: 1557684" data-attributes="member: 33355"><p>Thanks for that link. I have been following that build, it's nicely done and I am aware you are the same person. Flying off the handle and calling someone ignorant is no way to create trust when someone calls you out.</p><p></p><p>Your not posting things publicly, your forcing people to get info via PM which is shady. How can you call someone ignorant, then make the argument they are ignorant due to something sent in a private message and information on a site like Instagram? They are in no way related to the public forum. Not everyone follows you on Instagram, it's very arrogant for you to assume anyone does. If you study your demographics a bit you will find that most of your forum audience does not follow Instagram. Calling someone ignorant when you are not providing information is very unprofessional, and you are clearly trying to sell something.</p><p></p><p>You are pushing a spring and retainer kit with titanium keepers but you haven't done anything to identify the need for the exotic components. Generally titanium components are used in high revving engines to reduce mass, they seem totally unnecessary on a raptor, the engine is pretty well done by 6500. Why are you opting to use these? They are much shorter lifespan than steel would be. That's a very expensive option (not an option in your kit) which raises an eyebrow, from my perspective it looks like your forcing them down the consumers throat. You know that the average person is going to say oh look, its titanium and expensive it must be better. They are unaware that they are looking at 50k mile lifespan... maybe.</p><p></p><p>You have posted in threads about dropping valves that this kit will solve this problem, how can you in good conscience recommend titanium keepers on a daily driver? Your selling people a product they do not need, and is not going to last as long as stock parts, that is predatory.</p><p></p><p>If you take the time to educate your customers on the benefits of titanium vs tool steel and the drawbacks of each 99% will choose the cheaper steel part, its going to outlast titanium ten fold. But again nothing in your posts shows me you are at all concerned about your customers education nor saving them money.</p><p></p><p>When asked for a dyno graph comparison you posted a dyno that showed Livernois cams vs stock cams using your heads and package, which has nothing do to with the package your producing. The numbers look great, but they don't have a thing to do with your product, your combo is completely different from most. I asked for before and after, to see the change in the shape of the curve. I was pretty specific about it. This looks like some sleight of hand bs to me. All you had to say was "I don't have that info", that would have been honest.</p><p></p><p>Your on a site which is funded by vendors, your skirting the vendor policies, and that is shady. It's not a good way to treat the community, or the vendors.</p><p></p><p>I never said you don't have the skills, I said buyer beware. Show a little transparency and maybe you won't have people trying to look over your shoulder.</p><p></p><p>How about some more info. And stop making personal attacks, be a professional.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="B E N, post: 1557684, member: 33355"] Thanks for that link. I have been following that build, it's nicely done and I am aware you are the same person. Flying off the handle and calling someone ignorant is no way to create trust when someone calls you out. Your not posting things publicly, your forcing people to get info via PM which is shady. How can you call someone ignorant, then make the argument they are ignorant due to something sent in a private message and information on a site like Instagram? They are in no way related to the public forum. Not everyone follows you on Instagram, it's very arrogant for you to assume anyone does. If you study your demographics a bit you will find that most of your forum audience does not follow Instagram. Calling someone ignorant when you are not providing information is very unprofessional, and you are clearly trying to sell something. You are pushing a spring and retainer kit with titanium keepers but you haven't done anything to identify the need for the exotic components. Generally titanium components are used in high revving engines to reduce mass, they seem totally unnecessary on a raptor, the engine is pretty well done by 6500. Why are you opting to use these? They are much shorter lifespan than steel would be. That's a very expensive option (not an option in your kit) which raises an eyebrow, from my perspective it looks like your forcing them down the consumers throat. You know that the average person is going to say oh look, its titanium and expensive it must be better. They are unaware that they are looking at 50k mile lifespan... maybe. You have posted in threads about dropping valves that this kit will solve this problem, how can you in good conscience recommend titanium keepers on a daily driver? Your selling people a product they do not need, and is not going to last as long as stock parts, that is predatory. If you take the time to educate your customers on the benefits of titanium vs tool steel and the drawbacks of each 99% will choose the cheaper steel part, its going to outlast titanium ten fold. But again nothing in your posts shows me you are at all concerned about your customers education nor saving them money. When asked for a dyno graph comparison you posted a dyno that showed Livernois cams vs stock cams using your heads and package, which has nothing do to with the package your producing. The numbers look great, but they don't have a thing to do with your product, your combo is completely different from most. I asked for before and after, to see the change in the shape of the curve. I was pretty specific about it. This looks like some sleight of hand bs to me. All you had to say was "I don't have that info", that would have been honest. Your on a site which is funded by vendors, your skirting the vendor policies, and that is shady. It's not a good way to treat the community, or the vendors. I never said you don't have the skills, I said buyer beware. Show a little transparency and maybe you won't have people trying to look over your shoulder. How about some more info. And stop making personal attacks, be a professional. [/QUOTE]
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